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> Isn't there also a real risk of catching tuberculosis via raw milk consumption as well? Just like there is a 'real risk' of catching parasites from eating pl

> Isn't there also a real risk of catching tuberculosis via raw milk consumption as well? Just like there is a 'real risk' of catching parasites from eating plants. Or any foodborn illness from any food really. > but it always seemed like the real risks of getting an infections outweighed the benefits. Lots of things seem risky that to certain types of people. > This stuff isn't meant for humans Using that logic, humans can't consume any plants, fruits, meat, etc because they aren't 'meant for humans'. Do you only drink breast milk? And only your mother's breast milk since other female's breast milk is meant for other humans? > I don't know why people think that you can just drink it untreated without any risks. Me either. Don't know why people drive when it has risk. Or walk when at any moment, they can trip, hit their head on the sidewalk and die.

tombert 2y ago
> Just like there is a 'real risk' of catching parasites from eating plants. Or any foodborn illness from any food really. Most foodborn illnesses are not contagious to other people, and most are not nearly as bad as tuberculosis. > Using that logic, humans can't consume any plants, fruits, meat, etc because they aren't 'meant for humans'. I really don't think you read my comment in good faith. By "meant by", I really meant "evolved for", not any kind of god-given sense, and I do feel like that was pretty obvious. If we evolved to eat something untreated, then that's what I meant by "meant for us". I think you actually knew that. I'm not really an advocate of a lot of raw foods, I think treating them in the form of cooking kills a lot of pathogens that could be bad for us. > Do you only drink breast milk? Is this just a meme with the raw milk crowd? Why is it automatically assumed that I'm suggesting that adults consume any form of raw milk. That's not implied by anything I said. I don't think adults should be drinking untreated human breast milk or untreated cow milk. I personally don't really drink any milk, human or cow or otherwise. I do eat cheese from cow milk though, but it's always treated.
- linearrust 2y ago
  > I really don't think you read my comment in good faith Because your comment wasn't written in good faith but driven by agenda. > By "meant by", I really meant "evolved for" What fruits, plants, animals, etc was 'evolved for' humans? > If we evolved to eat something untreated, then that's what I meant by "meant for us". So you just make up arbitrary definition of evolution? That's some quality comment written in 'good fath'. > Is this just a meme with the raw milk crowd? I don't drink raw milk. > I personally don't really drink any milk, human or cow or otherwise. So you are driven by agenda. Like I assumed. Thank you.
  - tombert 2y ago
    > Because your comment wasn't written in good faith but driven by agenda. > So you are driven by agenda. Like I assumed. Thank you. Wait, what the actual fuck are you talking about? Agenda? You think I just go around the internet trying to besmirch the good name of milk? Are you suggesting I'm a member of some kind of anti-milk lobby? You think that's just how I spend every weekend or something? That's fucking stupid. Sorry for being crass but that's a completely ridiculous assertion. I post something suggesting that raw milk is linked to tuberculosis and that implies that I have some stupid political agenda? Grow the fuck up, I don't have a team. I don't drink milk because I don't really like the taste of milk. Nothing more. I said in the next sentence I do eat cheese, suggesting that I'm not some ranging anti-milkite. > So you just make up arbitrary definition of evolution? That's some quality comment written in 'good fath'. It's not really that arbitrary. Evolution is about increasing adaptation to environments. Cow milk evolved (like the cow animal itself) to be specialized for baby cows and their digestion. Baby cows almost certainly have different digestive systems than humans. > What fruits, plants, animals, etc was 'evolved for' humans? None, but I think humans likely evolved their digestion around being able to digest and kill pathogens from different types of plants and animals. > Because your comment wasn't written in good faith but driven by agenda. So are you agreeing that what you wrote was written in bad faith? I do not agree with your assertion that what I wrote was in bad faith.

tombert 2y ago

> Just like there is a 'real risk' of catching parasites from eating plants. Or any foodborn illness from any food really. Most foodborn illnesses are not contagious to other people, and most are not nearly as bad as tuberculosis. > Using that logic, humans can't consume any plants, fruits, meat, etc because they aren't 'meant for humans'. I really don't think you read my comment in good faith. By "meant by", I really meant "evolved for", not any kind of god-given sense, and I do feel like that was pretty obvious. If we evolved to eat something untreated, then that's what I meant by "meant for us". I think you actually knew that. I'm not really an advocate of a lot of raw foods, I think treating them in the form of cooking kills a lot of pathogens that could be bad for us. > Do you only drink breast milk? Is this just a meme with the raw milk crowd? Why is it automatically assumed that I'm suggesting that adults consume any form of raw milk. That's not implied by anything I said. I don't think adults should be drinking untreated human breast milk or untreated cow milk. I personally don't really drink any milk, human or cow or otherwise. I do eat cheese from cow milk though, but it's always treated.

linearrust 2y ago
> I really don't think you read my comment in good faith Because your comment wasn't written in good faith but driven by agenda. > By "meant by", I really meant "evolved for" What fruits, plants, animals, etc was 'evolved for' humans? > If we evolved to eat something untreated, then that's what I meant by "meant for us". So you just make up arbitrary definition of evolution? That's some quality comment written in 'good fath'. > Is this just a meme with the raw milk crowd? I don't drink raw milk. > I personally don't really drink any milk, human or cow or otherwise. So you are driven by agenda. Like I assumed. Thank you.
- tombert 2y ago
  > Because your comment wasn't written in good faith but driven by agenda. > So you are driven by agenda. Like I assumed. Thank you. Wait, what the actual fuck are you talking about? Agenda? You think I just go around the internet trying to besmirch the good name of milk? Are you suggesting I'm a member of some kind of anti-milk lobby? You think that's just how I spend every weekend or something? That's fucking stupid. Sorry for being crass but that's a completely ridiculous assertion. I post something suggesting that raw milk is linked to tuberculosis and that implies that I have some stupid political agenda? Grow the fuck up, I don't have a team. I don't drink milk because I don't really like the taste of milk. Nothing more. I said in the next sentence I do eat cheese, suggesting that I'm not some ranging anti-milkite. > So you just make up arbitrary definition of evolution? That's some quality comment written in 'good fath'. It's not really that arbitrary. Evolution is about increasing adaptation to environments. Cow milk evolved (like the cow animal itself) to be specialized for baby cows and their digestion. Baby cows almost certainly have different digestive systems than humans. > What fruits, plants, animals, etc was 'evolved for' humans? None, but I think humans likely evolved their digestion around being able to digest and kill pathogens from different types of plants and animals. > Because your comment wasn't written in good faith but driven by agenda. So are you agreeing that what you wrote was written in bad faith? I do not agree with your assertion that what I wrote was in bad faith.