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Surprised to see this on HN. Contentious and depressing outcome, however rarely with classified documents does a judge rule the ends justified the means.
by Staple_Diet 2y ago
Surprised to see this on HN.
Contentious and depressing outcome, however rarely with classified documents does a judge rule the ends justified the means.
- medo-bear 2y agoAustralia has outrageous Human Rights legal standards for a western country so this is to be expected.
- ekianjo 2y ago"western country" is a very fuzzy concept. The definition needs a list of proper list of requirements otherwise you have countries with very varying levels of individual rights
- schappim 2y agoA third of the country is literally called "Western Australia." Jokes aside, a Western country is typically defined as a nation with cultural, political, and economic ties to Europe. Our UK roots, democratic governance, military ties (e.g., AUKUS), and post-war European migration certainly place us in this category...
- 8372049 2y agoI think GP's point wasn't whether or not Australia should count (I agree that it should), but that the level between "the bad" (the US, Hungary, parts of former Yugoslavia, parts of Eastern Europe etc.) and "the good" (Finland, Estonia, Norway, etc.) is pretty big.
- willcipriano 2y agoI'd just stop calling the "good" ones western, they are something different.
- Slava_Propanei 2y ago[dead]
- morkalork 2y agoI thought it referred to Western Europe and the Anglosphere exclusively. Central/Eastern Europe wasn't included, especially countries that were part of the soviet bloc. One can talk about them becoming westernized now, but that just emphasizes how they aren't a part of the group, just becoming like it. Also, the US is epitome of western countries. All of it. The good, the bad and the ugly.
- medo-bear 2y agoI actually think "West" and "East" should go out of vocabulary. Originally Western meant civilised and modern, while Eastern meant crude and backward.
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