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There is more reason to be concerned about Telegram than most other similar services. Partly because it’s insecure by default, which makes a large percentage o
by StackRanker3000 2y ago
There is more reason to be concerned about Telegram than most other similar services.
Partly because it’s insecure by default, which makes a large percentage of conversations vulnerable.
And also because the team behind it is very susceptible to pressure from the Russian government, which is especially bad when it comes to these things. Even if some of them are based out of Dubai now, it doesn’t mean that they aren’t still at risk of coercion, either directly or through for example threats against family members who remain in the country.
If you don’t trust Russia, which you shouldn’t, then don’t trust Telegram with anything sensitive.
- 5e92cb50239222b 2y agoWhom should we trust then? Have we already forgotten about Snowden?
- fauigerzigerk 2y agoCan we trust some more than others without trusting anyone completely? I for one trust that there are more Americans who would say no to the NSA when they have a legal basis for doing so than there are Russians saying no to the FSB. The state of the rule of law is certainly not great anywhere in the world right now. But it's far worse in some places than in others. The difference still matters to some degree.
- pdimitar 2y ago> Can we trust some more than others No, we cannot, so yours and other comments come across as picking favorites. As an Eastern European I'll state that I distrust USA as much as I distrust Russia, China and North Korea. All nations with ambitions use every dirty trick known to man.
- darby_eight 2y ago> Even if some of them are based out of Dubai now Not to mention there's not much reason to trust UAE any more than there is to trust Russia.
- pdimitar 2y agoYes, and?
- darby_eight 2y agoI just found the mention of the state confusing because surely this app is equally untrustworthy regardless of its origin. American companies can't be trusted either—they've long since indicated a willingness to work with law enforcement and intelligence. E2e encryption is the only meaningful answer.
- pdimitar 2y agoYeah I agree with that, I am always baffled why people single out Russia as if it's the Cold War; none of the major powers can be trusted at all, some are just more covert than others but I guess "out of sight, out of mind" applies in full force even for a seemingly less-biased audience like HN. As for E2E encryption, eh, this topic has been beaten to death many times. Its UX is difficult so many apps like WhatsApp and Telegram do UX tradeoffs, quite successfully so I'd say.
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