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UniSuper's Google Cloud environment was deleted

36 points by siganakis 2y ago

eddyfromtheblok 2y ago
What a nightmare! At least they thought ahead to have backups on another provider. Does GCE not have deletion protection for databases, etc?
aabhay 2y ago
We’ve had our google cloud account frozen without an explanation or advance notice. Google has just this really unshakable reputation of being risky. We now host only non-critical secondary infrastructure there
- zx8080 2y ago
  > Google has just this really unshakable reputation of being risky. We now host only non-critical secondary infrastructure there Why hosting even non-critical infra there?
justinclift 2y ago
Wonder if Google will be on the hook liability and/or damages wise?
- jsiepkes 2y ago
  They probably get a ton of GCP credits.
  - justinclift 2y ago
    Not sure they'd be willing to use GCE from here on, outside of the immediate need to get themselves online.
    - zx8080 2y ago
      Engineers no. But with free GCE credits their managers will make them use it.
jsiepkes 2y ago
> UniSuper said it lost cloud infrastructure in “two geographies”, a configuration it believed should have kept it safer in an outage situation. But in the end, it's still a single system. As can be seen here. So it might help you when the DC burns down but it won't protect you from software bugs of your cloud provider.
- deanCommie 2y ago
  Depends on the cloud provider. Some take regional independence (and even further, availability-zone independence) more seriously than the others. Or to state it even more definitively, only one of the public cloud providers offers clear guarantees of availability-zone disaster recovery independence, never mind regions. And it's not Google's or Microsoft's.
dualscyther 2y ago
See discussion from yesterday too (with a much less alarming title) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40304666 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40304666
hnburnsy 2y ago
And yet my Google Wallet data going back 10 years is still around with no way for me to mass delete it.
saurik 2y ago
I guess Google no longer gets the same high they used to get from merely shutting down their own products, so they have now moved on to shutting down other peoples' products.
ChrisArchitect 2y ago
[dupe] More discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40313171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40313171

36 points by siganakis 2y ago

What a nightmare! At least they thought ahead to have backups on another provider. Does GCE not have deletion protection for databases, etc?

aabhay 2y ago

We’ve had our google cloud account frozen without an explanation or advance notice. Google has just this really unshakable reputation of being risky. We now host only non-critical secondary infrastructure there

zx8080 2y ago
> Google has just this really unshakable reputation of being risky. We now host only non-critical secondary infrastructure there Why hosting even non-critical infra there?

justinclift 2y ago

Wonder if Google will be on the hook liability and/or damages wise?

jsiepkes 2y ago
They probably get a ton of GCP credits.
- justinclift 2y ago
  Not sure they'd be willing to use GCE from here on, outside of the immediate need to get themselves online.
  - zx8080 2y ago
    Engineers no. But with free GCE credits their managers will make them use it.

jsiepkes 2y ago

> UniSuper said it lost cloud infrastructure in “two geographies”, a configuration it believed should have kept it safer in an outage situation. But in the end, it's still a single system. As can be seen here. So it might help you when the DC burns down but it won't protect you from software bugs of your cloud provider.

deanCommie 2y ago
Depends on the cloud provider. Some take regional independence (and even further, availability-zone independence) more seriously than the others. Or to state it even more definitively, only one of the public cloud providers offers clear guarantees of availability-zone disaster recovery independence, never mind regions. And it's not Google's or Microsoft's.

dualscyther 2y ago

See discussion from yesterday too (with a much less alarming title) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40304666 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40304666

hnburnsy 2y ago

And yet my Google Wallet data going back 10 years is still around with no way for me to mass delete it.

saurik 2y ago

I guess Google no longer gets the same high they used to get from merely shutting down their own products, so they have now moved on to shutting down other peoples' products.

ChrisArchitect 2y ago

[dupe] More discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40313171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40313171