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Haha valid I could tell you stories but trauma comparison is not a healthy thing they tell me I don't even speak to mine but idk the pain of giving birth should

by chefkd 2y ago

Haha valid I could tell you stories but trauma comparison is not a healthy thing they tell me I don't even speak to mine but idk the pain of giving birth should get some credit? I feel like when I was growing up this statement would have been accepted as a near tautology perhaps a cultural thing? or maybe a testament to the trauma-centric times we live in?

justinclift 2y ago
> ... the pain of giving birth should get some credit? Sure, up to a point. If the treatment of the children later on is massively detrimental though, then that "credit" is well and truly expired.
AlecSchueler 2y ago
Testament to strong social tabboos that kept poeple quiet about their as abusive families.
fladrif 2y ago
Why is there credit due? It's hard for me to accept the fact that children owe their parents for giving birth to them. I would say credit is due how the parents treat their child afterwards is what matters.
lupusreal 2y ago
I don't think it's a "sign of the times" thing, I think it's an internet thing. If you made that claim outside IRL today it would be well received by nearly everybody, including people with bad personal experiences (if only because most people prefer to believe that good outcomes are the norm instead of wallowing in pessimism.) But the internet? The internet is packed with people who focus on the negative, even people who resent their mothers (who may love them and treat them well) because they're so miserable they wish they had never been born. Always remember that talking to people online doesn't give you a representative sample of what people at large are really like. There's a selection bias in play; people who have problems with "real life" have a tendency to spend more problem online.
- datameta 2y ago
  The internet often carries a reverse of a normal distribution in terms of sentiment of opinion.

by chefkd 2y ago

justinclift 2y ago

> ... the pain of giving birth should get some credit? Sure, up to a point. If the treatment of the children later on is massively detrimental though, then that "credit" is well and truly expired.

AlecSchueler 2y ago

Testament to strong social tabboos that kept poeple quiet about their as abusive families.

fladrif 2y ago

Why is there credit due? It's hard for me to accept the fact that children owe their parents for giving birth to them. I would say credit is due how the parents treat their child afterwards is what matters.

lupusreal 2y ago

I don't think it's a "sign of the times" thing, I think it's an internet thing. If you made that claim outside IRL today it would be well received by nearly everybody, including people with bad personal experiences (if only because most people prefer to believe that good outcomes are the norm instead of wallowing in pessimism.) But the internet? The internet is packed with people who focus on the negative, even people who resent their mothers (who may love them and treat them well) because they're so miserable they wish they had never been born. Always remember that talking to people online doesn't give you a representative sample of what people at large are really like. There's a selection bias in play; people who have problems with "real life" have a tendency to spend more problem online.

datameta 2y ago
The internet often carries a reverse of a normal distribution in terms of sentiment of opinion.