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The 4090 costs ~$1800 and doesn't have dual OLED screens, doesn't have a battery, doesn't weigh less than a pound, and doesn't actually do anything unless it is
by lemcoe9 2y ago
The 4090 costs ~$1800 and doesn't have dual OLED screens, doesn't have a battery, doesn't weigh less than a pound, and doesn't actually do anything unless it is plugged into a larger motherboard, either.
- janalsncm 2y agoAnd yet it’s worth it for deep learning. I’d like to see a benchmark training Resnet on an iPad.
- talldayo 2y agoFrom Geekbench: https://browser.geekbench.com/opencl-benchmarks https://browser.geekbench.com/opencl-benchmarks Apple M3: 29685 RTX 4090: 320220 When you line it up like that it's kinda surprising the 4090 is just $1800. They could sell it for $5,000 a pop and it would still be better value than the highest end Apple Silicon.
- nicce 2y agoA bit off-topic since not applicable for iPad: Adding also M3 MAX: 86072 I wonder the results if the test would be done on Asahi Linux some day. Apple implementation is fairly unoptimized AFAK.
- haswell 2y agoComparing these directly like this is problematic. The 4090 is highly specialized and not usable for general purpose computing. Whether or not it's a better value than Apple Silicon will highly depend on what you intend to do with it. Especially if your goal is to have a device you can put in your backpack.
- talldayo 2y agoI'm not the one making the comparison, I'm just providing the compute numbers to the people who did. Decide for yourself what that means, the only conclusion I made on was compute-per-dollar.
- aurareturn 2y agoI think it would be simpler to compare cost/transistor.
- pulse7 2y agoThis is true, but... RTX 4090 has only 24GB RAM and M3 can run with 192GB RAM... A game changer for largest/best models...
- talldayo 2y agoCUDA features unified memory that is only limited by the bandwidth of your PCIe connector: https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/unified-memory-cuda-beginners/ https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/unified-memory-cuda-beginn... People have been tiling 24gb+ models on a single (or several) 3090/4090s for a while now.
- seec 2y agoShhh, don't correct the believers, they might learn something.
- trvz 2y agoThat's for OpenCL, Apple gets higher scores through Metal.
- talldayo 2y agoAnd Nvidia annihilates those scores with CUBlas. I'm going to play nice and post the OpenCL scores since both sides get a fair opportunity to optimize for it.
- trvz 2y agoActually, I'd like to see Nvidia's highest Geekbench scores. Feel free to link them. It's stupid to look at OpenCL when that's not what's used in real use.