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Yes it is new. The WHO only changed their guidance about a year ago [1]. Still, as far as I know the evidence is only associational. From the paper the article

by McP 2y ago

Yes it is new. The WHO only changed their guidance about a year ago [1]. Still, as far as I know the evidence is only associational. From the paper the article links to: "Potential for reverse causality cannot be eliminated". [1] https://www.who.int/news/item/15-05-2023-who-advises-not-to-use-non-sugar-sweeteners-for-weight-control-in-newly-released-guideline https://www.who.int/news/item/15-05-2023-who-advises-not-to-...

shepherdjerred 2y ago
So it sounds like artificial sugars can actually cause diabetes? That's unfortunate. Occasionally I drink Coke Zero as an alternative to Coke, but perhaps I should start replacing that with unsweetened seltzer water like La Croix.
- worik 2y ago
  Water. On its own. It's what I drink
  - shepherdjerred 2y ago
    I already drink more than enough water; I enjoy drinking _something_ while studying.
- kevinmchugh 2y ago
  An occasional pop, sugar or no, isn't going to cause diabetes.
- amanaplanacanal 2y ago
  Or, just as likely, diabetics are more likely to use artificial sweeteners.
- Pomfers 2y ago
  No, the "Potential for reverse causality cannot be eliminated" means that instead of artificial sweeteners causing diabetes, causality can be reversed: Diabetes causes the intake of artificial sweeteners. All these studies just show an association, but can not prove the direction of causality. For whatever reason, the idea that diabetic and overweight people deliberately seek out zero sugar sweeteners so that they can enjoy sweetness without making their situation worse just doesn't seem like a plausible explanation to them. Personally, if you can't definitively prove something is bad for you after 45+ years of research, I just don't care anymore. People can occasionally drink Coke regular without issue, I wouldn't be worried. Most of the time, diabetes is not caused by merely occasional consumption of sugars.
  - kelipso 2y ago
    "I have never seen a thin person drinking Diet Coke."

by McP 2y ago

shepherdjerred 2y ago

So it sounds like artificial sugars can actually cause diabetes? That's unfortunate. Occasionally I drink Coke Zero as an alternative to Coke, but perhaps I should start replacing that with unsweetened seltzer water like La Croix.

worik 2y ago
Water. On its own. It's what I drink
- shepherdjerred 2y ago
  I already drink more than enough water; I enjoy drinking _something_ while studying.
kevinmchugh 2y ago
An occasional pop, sugar or no, isn't going to cause diabetes.
amanaplanacanal 2y ago
Or, just as likely, diabetics are more likely to use artificial sweeteners.
Pomfers 2y ago
No, the "Potential for reverse causality cannot be eliminated" means that instead of artificial sweeteners causing diabetes, causality can be reversed: Diabetes causes the intake of artificial sweeteners. All these studies just show an association, but can not prove the direction of causality. For whatever reason, the idea that diabetic and overweight people deliberately seek out zero sugar sweeteners so that they can enjoy sweetness without making their situation worse just doesn't seem like a plausible explanation to them. Personally, if you can't definitively prove something is bad for you after 45+ years of research, I just don't care anymore. People can occasionally drink Coke regular without issue, I wouldn't be worried. Most of the time, diabetes is not caused by merely occasional consumption of sugars.
- kelipso 2y ago
  "I have never seen a thin person drinking Diet Coke."