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Not universally true, I use banking apps on my Pixel running the latest GrapheneOS. There is literally nothing I cannot do on my phone. I think it's possible th

Not universally true, I use banking apps on my Pixel running the latest GrapheneOS. There is literally nothing I cannot do on my phone. I think it's possible that no US banks have apps that can be used as it seems a universal experience among Americans.

mkopec 2y ago
Do Android Auto and VoLTE / VoWiFi work on Graphene these days? I also remember Google Maps and Uber being extremely problematic
- sureglymop 2y ago
  I think they work if you install Google Play Services (as a sandboxed app). What doesn't work for me is contactless payments with Google Pay however Google Wallet itself works. But I think that is actually intended and for security reasons.
  - mbananasynergy 2y ago
    Google Wallet is usable on GrapheneOS, but Google artificially restricts contactless payment functionality to Google-certified OSes. It's not a real security check that they're doing, but rather just checking for certification, which is very unfortunate.
- ajvpot 2y ago
  Uber, Google Maps, VoLTE, VoWiFi, and eSIM work. You may need to install the sandboxed Google Play Services from the Apps app. Android Auto is completely disabled as an opinionated security measure. Google Pay and some banking apps (ones that require Google's Play Integrity API) will not run. GrapheneOS doesn't attempt to spoof these APIs because they are moving towards cryptographic verification [0]. Most apps don't require this check but if they do you are out of luck unless you can get the app developers to trust GrapheneOS's keys. [0]: https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-gu...
  - mbananasynergy 2y ago
    Note that Android Auto has been supported in GrapheneOS for a while: https://grapheneos.org/usage#android-auto https://grapheneos.org/usage#android-auto
    - fifteen1506 2y ago
      Ya kept wanting to try Android Auto but when they released I failed to find the toggle xD Nowadays it's the Google's Find My Tag network which will be unsupported.
- mbananasynergy 2y ago
  Android Auto is supported on GrapheneOS: https://grapheneos.org/usage#android-auto https://grapheneos.org/usage#android-auto VoLTE and VoWiFi are supported if your carrier supports it. Google Maps and Uber work fine, provided you install sandboxed Google Play.

mkopec 2y ago

Do Android Auto and VoLTE / VoWiFi work on Graphene these days? I also remember Google Maps and Uber being extremely problematic

sureglymop 2y ago
I think they work if you install Google Play Services (as a sandboxed app). What doesn't work for me is contactless payments with Google Pay however Google Wallet itself works. But I think that is actually intended and for security reasons.
- mbananasynergy 2y ago
  Google Wallet is usable on GrapheneOS, but Google artificially restricts contactless payment functionality to Google-certified OSes. It's not a real security check that they're doing, but rather just checking for certification, which is very unfortunate.
ajvpot 2y ago
Uber, Google Maps, VoLTE, VoWiFi, and eSIM work. You may need to install the sandboxed Google Play Services from the Apps app. Android Auto is completely disabled as an opinionated security measure. Google Pay and some banking apps (ones that require Google's Play Integrity API) will not run. GrapheneOS doesn't attempt to spoof these APIs because they are moving towards cryptographic verification [0]. Most apps don't require this check but if they do you are out of luck unless you can get the app developers to trust GrapheneOS's keys. [0]: https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-gu...
- mbananasynergy 2y ago
  Note that Android Auto has been supported in GrapheneOS for a while: https://grapheneos.org/usage#android-auto https://grapheneos.org/usage#android-auto
  - fifteen1506 2y ago
    Ya kept wanting to try Android Auto but when they released I failed to find the toggle xD Nowadays it's the Google's Find My Tag network which will be unsupported.
mbananasynergy 2y ago
Android Auto is supported on GrapheneOS: https://grapheneos.org/usage#android-auto https://grapheneos.org/usage#android-auto VoLTE and VoWiFi are supported if your carrier supports it. Google Maps and Uber work fine, provided you install sandboxed Google Play.