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What is a legitimate use case for this? I can think of a hundred applications for deceiving others but struggle to come up with a scenario where one would want

What is a legitimate use case for this? I can think of a hundred applications for deceiving others but struggle to come up with a scenario where one would want their voice cloned or reproduced.

smrtinsert 2y ago
Tiktok videos for the amusement of millions?
- dylan604 2y ago
  For 6 months before it's banned!
mlboss 2y ago
Podcast production without speaking. Audio correction in media.
shortrounddev2 2y ago
I play a lot of counter-strike and it's very amusing when people hurl insults at the other team with the voice of Joe Biden
dannyw 2y ago
You're recording a podcast and want to tweak some of your own words, without the hassle of re-recording. You're an indie game developer, and want to have vibrant NPCs with their unique voices and dialogues powered by a LLM. You're producing a movie, and want to tweak certain lines of dialogue; with the consent of the talent. You suffer from health conditions and are gradually losing your voice, but you still want to communicate. There are certainly legitimate use cases of this technology. I personally believe illegitimate use cases overshadow the legitimate use cases, but I don't think it's fair to say there are no legitimate applications. We should strictly regulate the use of this technology by criminalizing abuse; not by banning it altogether (which is pretty hard in the case of software and small models).
- dylan604 2y ago
  > You're producing a movie, and want to tweak certain lines of dialogue; with the consent of the talent. The latest agreement to end the last round of strikes was to prevent this very thing. Of your list, the medical condition to give someone their real voice instead of a Hawking voice would be the most legit reason. Everything else is a skewed sense of morally acceptable as I think they are shady
  - dannyw 2y ago
    I wouldn't go as far as that. Plenty of indie to AAA games are produced using commodity assets / resources (e.g. why make your own tree model, when there's plenty of pre-mades in the marketplace). Yes, that takes away work from artists, but it is part of productivity and game development. Centuries ago, elevators were manned. Today, they're all electronic. It is the inevitable march of progress and productivity.
    - dylan604 2y ago
      There's a difference from starting the project by using OpenVoice vs hiring an actor for 90% of the work but then cloning their voice because you can' be bothered to reschedule the same actor for creative changes. But if you start that project by making a voice sound like Morgan Freeman because you can't afford Morgan Freeman but you feel entitled then you can go pound sand. So your choice of making a generated voice should be of a voice that someone else isn't already using.
- ranger_danger 2y ago
  I wish I had your creativity when trying to think of something useful to code.
whycome 2y ago
It’s only a matter of time before Alexa and other agents use better customizable voices. Audiobooks could have voices read by characters rather than a single narrator faking it. (If even) You have a cold but still want to give a speech without coughing. Low bandwidth transmission of audio: transmit just the text and use local voice model to replay it. Talk to your loved ones after they’re gone. Hilarity and comedy.
- beretguy 2y ago
  > Talk to your loved ones after they’re gone. Ok, no, that's bad. Have you seen Black Mirror?
- ranger_danger 2y ago
  Imagine the day when Alexa speaks back to you in your own voice. People would go insane.
bhickey 2y ago
> What is a legitimate use case for this? Voice loss.
r2_pilot 2y ago
You may not be trying hard at all then. The first thing I thought was to clone your voice to use in real-time translations. I can probably think of several others mentioned in comments below, but this is a 100% always-useful never-nefarious(assuming perfect translation not being maliciously used) application.
- brigadier132 2y ago
  This tech makes me not even want to speak.
  - Wistar 2y ago
    Yes, I have, just now, been thinking about how few, and featureless, syllables I can utter to determine if an unknown caller has a legitimate reason for calling, such as a large-delivery driver, medical lab or other real call. It seems the best tactic is to make the caller do as much of the talking as possible. Or use a generic cloned voice to interact with unknown callers.
  - beretguy 2y ago
    This tech makes me not want to have a YouTube channel.
  - figglestar 2y ago
    Use the tech to speak and hide your real voice.
tjbiddle 2y ago
Sending personalized messages to customers
lukevp 2y ago
My wife has been sick all week and has to communicate over text because her voice has gone. We’ve been talking about making voice clones of ourselves for situations like this. Some people never regain their voices so preserving them before they lose it is super valuable.
tmaly 2y ago
What if you wanted to create audio for your videos without having to have a recording session.
gotrythis 2y ago
I imagine training people, and having everything I say be available in any language, matching my tonality, and being able to reach a global audience. I'm very much looking forward to this.
codelobe 2y ago
Indie Gamedevs can do their own Voice Acting? See also indie film, same use case. Actor dies / hit by buss before a work is finished - Create a few more lines posthumously (it'll be in the fine print of the contract that you allow voice & image fakes in the event not able to do them). Satire, Pranks, and alleged pranks (stuff that makes folk laugh).
colechristensen 2y ago
Fixing small errors in narration, voiceovers, or other recorded content. Translation of recorded content with the original voice into new languages. Comedy as long as it’s obvious that it’s a fake. Actually intentionally selling your voice to be the voice of some text to speech product. Maybe I want Alexa to have the voice of Danny Devito, as long as he’s ok with it and getting paid.
anotherevan 2y ago
I have a friend with a paralysed larynx who is often using his phone or a small laptop to type in order to communicate. I know he would love it if it was possible to take old recordings of him speaking and use that to give him back "his" voice, at least in some small measure. Unfortunately I have yet to see something that can do this and provide a voice model that you could plug into Android TTS and/or Windows which are what he uses.
- jilijeanlouis 2y ago
  Why would you use a dedicated app? Does it have to be natively embedded in android ?
  - anotherevan 2y ago
    Does not have to be natively embedded. Should work locally without needing an internet connection to perform the speech generation though.

What is a legitimate use case for this? I can think of a hundred applications for deceiving others but struggle to come up with a scenario where one would want their voice cloned or reproduced.

smrtinsert 2y ago

Tiktok videos for the amusement of millions?

dylan604 2y ago
For 6 months before it's banned!

mlboss 2y ago

Podcast production without speaking. Audio correction in media.

shortrounddev2 2y ago

I play a lot of counter-strike and it's very amusing when people hurl insults at the other team with the voice of Joe Biden

dannyw 2y ago

You're recording a podcast and want to tweak some of your own words, without the hassle of re-recording. You're an indie game developer, and want to have vibrant NPCs with their unique voices and dialogues powered by a LLM. You're producing a movie, and want to tweak certain lines of dialogue; with the consent of the talent. You suffer from health conditions and are gradually losing your voice, but you still want to communicate. There are certainly legitimate use cases of this technology. I personally believe illegitimate use cases overshadow the legitimate use cases, but I don't think it's fair to say there are no legitimate applications. We should strictly regulate the use of this technology by criminalizing abuse; not by banning it altogether (which is pretty hard in the case of software and small models).

dylan604 2y ago
> You're producing a movie, and want to tweak certain lines of dialogue; with the consent of the talent. The latest agreement to end the last round of strikes was to prevent this very thing. Of your list, the medical condition to give someone their real voice instead of a Hawking voice would be the most legit reason. Everything else is a skewed sense of morally acceptable as I think they are shady
- dannyw 2y ago
  I wouldn't go as far as that. Plenty of indie to AAA games are produced using commodity assets / resources (e.g. why make your own tree model, when there's plenty of pre-mades in the marketplace). Yes, that takes away work from artists, but it is part of productivity and game development. Centuries ago, elevators were manned. Today, they're all electronic. It is the inevitable march of progress and productivity.
  - dylan604 2y ago
    There's a difference from starting the project by using OpenVoice vs hiring an actor for 90% of the work but then cloning their voice because you can' be bothered to reschedule the same actor for creative changes. But if you start that project by making a voice sound like Morgan Freeman because you can't afford Morgan Freeman but you feel entitled then you can go pound sand. So your choice of making a generated voice should be of a voice that someone else isn't already using.
ranger_danger 2y ago
I wish I had your creativity when trying to think of something useful to code.

whycome 2y ago

It’s only a matter of time before Alexa and other agents use better customizable voices. Audiobooks could have voices read by characters rather than a single narrator faking it. (If even) You have a cold but still want to give a speech without coughing. Low bandwidth transmission of audio: transmit just the text and use local voice model to replay it. Talk to your loved ones after they’re gone. Hilarity and comedy.

beretguy 2y ago
> Talk to your loved ones after they’re gone. Ok, no, that's bad. Have you seen Black Mirror?
ranger_danger 2y ago
Imagine the day when Alexa speaks back to you in your own voice. People would go insane.

bhickey 2y ago

> What is a legitimate use case for this? Voice loss.

r2_pilot 2y ago

You may not be trying hard at all then. The first thing I thought was to clone your voice to use in real-time translations. I can probably think of several others mentioned in comments below, but this is a 100% always-useful never-nefarious(assuming perfect translation not being maliciously used) application.

brigadier132 2y ago
This tech makes me not even want to speak.
- Wistar 2y ago
  Yes, I have, just now, been thinking about how few, and featureless, syllables I can utter to determine if an unknown caller has a legitimate reason for calling, such as a large-delivery driver, medical lab or other real call. It seems the best tactic is to make the caller do as much of the talking as possible. Or use a generic cloned voice to interact with unknown callers.
- beretguy 2y ago
  This tech makes me not want to have a YouTube channel.
- figglestar 2y ago
  Use the tech to speak and hide your real voice.

tjbiddle 2y ago

Sending personalized messages to customers

lukevp 2y ago

My wife has been sick all week and has to communicate over text because her voice has gone. We’ve been talking about making voice clones of ourselves for situations like this. Some people never regain their voices so preserving them before they lose it is super valuable.

tmaly 2y ago

What if you wanted to create audio for your videos without having to have a recording session.

gotrythis 2y ago

I imagine training people, and having everything I say be available in any language, matching my tonality, and being able to reach a global audience. I'm very much looking forward to this.

codelobe 2y ago

Indie Gamedevs can do their own Voice Acting? See also indie film, same use case. Actor dies / hit by buss before a work is finished - Create a few more lines posthumously (it'll be in the fine print of the contract that you allow voice & image fakes in the event not able to do them). Satire, Pranks, and alleged pranks (stuff that makes folk laugh).

colechristensen 2y ago

Fixing small errors in narration, voiceovers, or other recorded content. Translation of recorded content with the original voice into new languages. Comedy as long as it’s obvious that it’s a fake. Actually intentionally selling your voice to be the voice of some text to speech product. Maybe I want Alexa to have the voice of Danny Devito, as long as he’s ok with it and getting paid.

anotherevan 2y ago

I have a friend with a paralysed larynx who is often using his phone or a small laptop to type in order to communicate. I know he would love it if it was possible to take old recordings of him speaking and use that to give him back "his" voice, at least in some small measure. Unfortunately I have yet to see something that can do this and provide a voice model that you could plug into Android TTS and/or Windows which are what he uses.

jilijeanlouis 2y ago
Why would you use a dedicated app? Does it have to be natively embedded in android ?
- anotherevan 2y ago
  Does not have to be natively embedded. Should work locally without needing an internet connection to perform the speech generation though.