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Weather accounts for 75% of all airline delays (in the US). That disclaimer is kind of surprising to gloss over. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/22/weather/why

Weather accounts for 75% of all airline delays (in the US). That disclaimer is kind of surprising to gloss over. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/22/weather/why-flights-get-canceled-weather-climate/index.html#:~:text=Weather%20is%20the%20largest%20cause,it%20comes%20to%20flight%20disruptions https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/22/weather/why-flights-get-c....

pas 2y ago
It worked for us a few years ago. Eurowings was late and the plane had to land somewhere else, they got us to the destination airport with buses. Then we got 250 EUR comp.
dkjaudyeqooe 2y ago
Forcing airlines to compensate passengers for weather delays isn't going to work, and isn't equitable. You'd probably have people purposefully trying to book flights that are liable to be cancelled in order to profit. Don't know what disclaimer you're referring to but in the EU you still get a full refund for cancellations no matter what the reason.
- ranger_danger 2y ago
  Did you just contradict yourself? I'm confused.
  - bramblerose 2y ago
    You can be refunded without receiving additional compensation.
- chgs 2y ago
  If you know the flight will be cancelled why would the airline sell you the ticket?
- deleted 2y ago
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gravescale 2y ago
Yes, but it's a bit unfair to ding an airline 600 euros per passenger on top of the fare refund because the weather wasn't safe. Fining an airline north of 100k because they didn't take off in unsafe weather would result in an even greater incentive to fly anyway. The fines are there to disincentivise the airlines from skimping on staffing or maintenance, causing delays, and lumping passengers with the expenses incurred by having to rearrange travel at short notice. I assume there is some kind of system in place to prevent airlines falsely claiming bad weather to escape the compensation rules.
- preinheimer 2y ago
  I think there's another side to this. There's weather, and there's "It's winter". I don't think it's reasonable for airlines to expect to maintain the same number of departures that worked in the nice summer months through the winter. Runways will need to be cleared, planes will need to be de-iced. They could keep extra planes and staff around ready to replace an incoming flight if it's delayed (clearly easier for carriers with fewer types of aircraft). Heck just staff seem like they would be handy as the flight crew hit their service limits. But there's no financial incentive to do that if "weather" (despite happening every winter) is a get-out-of-jail-free card.
  - qazxcvbnmlp 2y ago
    There’s already an incentive with the weather. If have the plane has to be rebooked or refunded that’s lost revenue that stills ends up affecting the bottom line. The airline is still very incentivized to get you were you are going on time. Planes and crews still need to get where they were going so it’s much better for everyone involved if it’s a full plane with an on time arrival for passengers.
  - throwaway2037 2y ago
    > They could keep extra planes and staff around ready to replace an incoming flight if it's delayed This seems unrealistic. The cost would be prohibitive.
    - 2y ago

pas 2y ago

It worked for us a few years ago. Eurowings was late and the plane had to land somewhere else, they got us to the destination airport with buses. Then we got 250 EUR comp.

dkjaudyeqooe 2y ago

Forcing airlines to compensate passengers for weather delays isn't going to work, and isn't equitable. You'd probably have people purposefully trying to book flights that are liable to be cancelled in order to profit. Don't know what disclaimer you're referring to but in the EU you still get a full refund for cancellations no matter what the reason.

ranger_danger 2y ago
Did you just contradict yourself? I'm confused.
- bramblerose 2y ago
  You can be refunded without receiving additional compensation.
chgs 2y ago
If you know the flight will be cancelled why would the airline sell you the ticket?
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gravescale 2y ago

Yes, but it's a bit unfair to ding an airline 600 euros per passenger on top of the fare refund because the weather wasn't safe. Fining an airline north of 100k because they didn't take off in unsafe weather would result in an even greater incentive to fly anyway. The fines are there to disincentivise the airlines from skimping on staffing or maintenance, causing delays, and lumping passengers with the expenses incurred by having to rearrange travel at short notice. I assume there is some kind of system in place to prevent airlines falsely claiming bad weather to escape the compensation rules.

preinheimer 2y ago
I think there's another side to this. There's weather, and there's "It's winter". I don't think it's reasonable for airlines to expect to maintain the same number of departures that worked in the nice summer months through the winter. Runways will need to be cleared, planes will need to be de-iced. They could keep extra planes and staff around ready to replace an incoming flight if it's delayed (clearly easier for carriers with fewer types of aircraft). Heck just staff seem like they would be handy as the flight crew hit their service limits. But there's no financial incentive to do that if "weather" (despite happening every winter) is a get-out-of-jail-free card.
- qazxcvbnmlp 2y ago
  There’s already an incentive with the weather. If have the plane has to be rebooked or refunded that’s lost revenue that stills ends up affecting the bottom line. The airline is still very incentivized to get you were you are going on time. Planes and crews still need to get where they were going so it’s much better for everyone involved if it’s a full plane with an on time arrival for passengers.
- throwaway2037 2y ago
  > They could keep extra planes and staff around ready to replace an incoming flight if it's delayed This seems unrealistic. The cost would be prohibitive.
  - 2y ago