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> The loss of TikTok is the destruction of Americans to access content that isn't filtered through US hegemony. Meta's arcane moderation decisions apply to oth

> The loss of TikTok is the destruction of Americans to access content that isn't filtered through US hegemony. Meta's arcane moderation decisions apply to other platforms than their own? Go to reddit, to youtube, or to twitter, and you can find the most vile, unfiltered opinions on Israel and Palestine known to man. Americans aren't missing out on any content at all. The only thing that will be destroyed is China's fast lane to American eyes.

nashashmi 2y ago
Try posting something on israel and palestine. it will get less views. Try doing a post like good morning. it will get more views!
- hhjinks 2y ago
  The Israel/Palestine conflict is routinely at the top of massive subs like /r/news and /r/worldnews, two subreddits with diametrically opposed views on the conflict.
  - nashashmi 2y ago
    The channels are a different story. The dealbreaker is when that comes up on your newsfeed. It creates reactions. My feed is repeatedly missing these things. And then i have to manually revisit them. It starts up again. And then ceases.
    - asadotzler 2y ago
      So what you're saying is those who control the feed algo have all the power and you want China to control the feed algo for a popular US app. Sounds smart /s
      - nashashmi 2y ago
        US wants to control the feed algo. TikTok said no. US wants TikTok sold to someone who will. So far, China doesn’t control the feed algo. They control what content is uploaded. Imagine putting work into a video yet it never seeing the light because it was shadow banned. Now imagine it not allowed to be seen. The former is the western world. The latter is china.
valec 2y ago
are you serious? reddit is perhaps the most astroturfed platform on the planet.
- hhjinks 2y ago
  Please, for the love of God, can people please stop making me pry their point from their hands? What about astroturfing makes reddit, a platform where you can build your own walled garden, a platform where you cannot find content that isn't filtered through US hegemony?
nemothekid 2y ago
Since the "alt-right pipeline" days and subsequent adpocalypse, YouTube has become an incredibly milquetoast platform. Twitter is no different than Meta when it comes to moderation, however instead of being "liberal american media", its just "conservative american media". While Meta censors you for being too far right, Twitter censors you for being too far left. That said, my point isn't that "I can't watch pro-palestine content". TikTok presents the first major news platform used by Americans that wasn't created for Americans. For all the whining about how $social_media_platform doesn't offer diverse view points, that goes out the window when the owner isn't American. I don't believe that China is better than America. I personally don't think it's a good thing that the US can just decide ban any content platform that isn't controlled by a US interest. I don't think it's good for the country and I think the security issues are overblown - any realistic security issue you can have with foreign interference, Meta has already committed and any legislation that does not address this just means the legislation doesn't really give a shit about security. I don't think any Chinese viewpoint is inherently good, but the fact that millions of Americans cannot view content from a diversity of platforms is a problem.

nashashmi 2y ago

Try posting something on israel and palestine. it will get less views. Try doing a post like good morning. it will get more views!

hhjinks 2y ago
The Israel/Palestine conflict is routinely at the top of massive subs like /r/news and /r/worldnews, two subreddits with diametrically opposed views on the conflict.
- nashashmi 2y ago
  The channels are a different story. The dealbreaker is when that comes up on your newsfeed. It creates reactions. My feed is repeatedly missing these things. And then i have to manually revisit them. It starts up again. And then ceases.
  - asadotzler 2y ago
    So what you're saying is those who control the feed algo have all the power and you want China to control the feed algo for a popular US app. Sounds smart /s
    - nashashmi 2y ago
      US wants to control the feed algo. TikTok said no. US wants TikTok sold to someone who will. So far, China doesn’t control the feed algo. They control what content is uploaded. Imagine putting work into a video yet it never seeing the light because it was shadow banned. Now imagine it not allowed to be seen. The former is the western world. The latter is china.

valec 2y ago

are you serious? reddit is perhaps the most astroturfed platform on the planet.

hhjinks 2y ago
Please, for the love of God, can people please stop making me pry their point from their hands? What about astroturfing makes reddit, a platform where you can build your own walled garden, a platform where you cannot find content that isn't filtered through US hegemony?

nemothekid 2y ago

Since the "alt-right pipeline" days and subsequent adpocalypse, YouTube has become an incredibly milquetoast platform. Twitter is no different than Meta when it comes to moderation, however instead of being "liberal american media", its just "conservative american media". While Meta censors you for being too far right, Twitter censors you for being too far left. That said, my point isn't that "I can't watch pro-palestine content". TikTok presents the first major news platform used by Americans that wasn't created for Americans. For all the whining about how $social_media_platform doesn't offer diverse view points, that goes out the window when the owner isn't American. I don't believe that China is better than America. I personally don't think it's a good thing that the US can just decide ban any content platform that isn't controlled by a US interest. I don't think it's good for the country and I think the security issues are overblown - any realistic security issue you can have with foreign interference, Meta has already committed and any legislation that does not address this just means the legislation doesn't really give a shit about security. I don't think any Chinese viewpoint is inherently good, but the fact that millions of Americans cannot view content from a diversity of platforms is a problem.