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So if it is possible with comments, does it mean it is possible with voting? I'm wondering how many posts recently came to main page upvoted by bots

wood_spirit 2y ago
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- snakeyjake 2y ago
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  - pvg 2y ago
    Whatever the techbro religion is, it's seems to be lot less obvious, boring and common (at least on HN) than grandiose fearless-truthteller-of-strident-truths-the-sheeple-refuse-to-hear delusions.
Kikawala 2y ago
Below submission had over 1,000 votes before being flagged. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40117443 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40117443
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Arnavion 2y ago
HN doesn't have any integrity about voting in general. Look at the "about" text of https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=pwdisswordfishc https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=pwdisswordfishc for example, and then look at the username. There is a whole family of pwdisswordfish* accounts btw. The "b" account's "about" text even has a holier-than-thou attitude about it.
- tgv 2y ago
  That looks like a person, or a pretty good HNGPT. It's not your average spam. (Unless most comments have been deleted.)
  - Arnavion 2y ago
    When I said "Look at the username", I meant that. You're not going to get anything by analyzing the posting style of a shared account.
- fragmede 2y ago
  you're assuming votes from those accounts are being included in vote counts
  - Arnavion 2y ago
    You're missing the point that I didn't need to assume it.
    - fragmede 2y ago
      if you have a way to map votes to the account that made them, I'm all ears.
- gus_massa 2y ago
  If you go to https://news.ycombinator.com/newest https://news.ycombinator.com/newest , from time to time there apears stories with 50 upvotes in 30 minutes, and perhaps a few sockpuppets/shills comments. If you do the math, they should be in the front page, but misteriously they aren't. So the conclussion is that HN has a secret feature that detect (some of) the tricks. I think I read some coment from pg or dang about voting rings, but it was a long time ago, but it has no details. The details are part of the secret sause. Also people flag strange threads, so the detection is not only automatic. If you notice something strange, you can send an email to dang: hn@ycombinator.com
pvg 2y ago
It's surely possible but it's not quite that easy, otherwise you'd see it daily in comments. It's similar for front page posts but harder since both users and moderators nuke spam-looking things as they are highly visible.

wood_spirit 2y ago

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snakeyjake 2y ago
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- pvg 2y ago
  Whatever the techbro religion is, it's seems to be lot less obvious, boring and common (at least on HN) than grandiose fearless-truthteller-of-strident-truths-the-sheeple-refuse-to-hear delusions.

Kikawala 2y ago

Below submission had over 1,000 votes before being flagged. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40117443 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40117443

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Arnavion 2y ago

HN doesn't have any integrity about voting in general. Look at the "about" text of https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=pwdisswordfishc https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=pwdisswordfishc for example, and then look at the username. There is a whole family of pwdisswordfish* accounts btw. The "b" account's "about" text even has a holier-than-thou attitude about it.

tgv 2y ago
That looks like a person, or a pretty good HNGPT. It's not your average spam. (Unless most comments have been deleted.)
- Arnavion 2y ago
  When I said "Look at the username", I meant that. You're not going to get anything by analyzing the posting style of a shared account.
fragmede 2y ago
you're assuming votes from those accounts are being included in vote counts
- Arnavion 2y ago
  You're missing the point that I didn't need to assume it.
  - fragmede 2y ago
    if you have a way to map votes to the account that made them, I'm all ears.
gus_massa 2y ago
If you go to https://news.ycombinator.com/newest https://news.ycombinator.com/newest , from time to time there apears stories with 50 upvotes in 30 minutes, and perhaps a few sockpuppets/shills comments. If you do the math, they should be in the front page, but misteriously they aren't. So the conclussion is that HN has a secret feature that detect (some of) the tricks. I think I read some coment from pg or dang about voting rings, but it was a long time ago, but it has no details. The details are part of the secret sause. Also people flag strange threads, so the detection is not only automatic. If you notice something strange, you can send an email to dang: hn@ycombinator.com

pvg 2y ago

It's surely possible but it's not quite that easy, otherwise you'd see it daily in comments. It's similar for front page posts but harder since both users and moderators nuke spam-looking things as they are highly visible.