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You are conflating entirely different statistics. For every stat other than driverless vehicles, you used the fatality rate. For autonomous vehicles, you used t
by jlmorton 2y ago
You are conflating entirely different statistics. For every stat other than driverless vehicles, you used the fatality rate. For autonomous vehicles, you used the accident rate, and you included all manufacturers and a stat from 3 years ago.
The statistics that have been released from Waymo are significantly different:
https://waymo.com/blog/2023/12/waymo-significantly-outperforms-comparable-human-benchmarks-over-7-million/ https://waymo.com/blog/2023/12/waymo-significantly-outperfor...
- nyrikki 2y agoYa I was suckered by a spam site. But the vendor isn't a reliable source either. The latest NTSB info I can find is: 9.1 crashes in driverless vehicles per million vehicle miles driven 4.2 crashes in conventional vehicles per million miles driven But to quote you link: > The second is differences in driving conditions and/or vehicle characteristics. Public human crash data includes all road types, like freeways, where the Waymo Driver currently only operates with an autonomous specialist behind the wheel, as well as various vehicle types from commercial heavy vehicles to passenger and motorcycles. The post I was responding to claimed freeway driving, which always has a safety driver right now. As speeds increase, outcomes become less optimal. And the cars can't simply stop in the middle of the road and wait for a remote driver without putting the occupants at serious risk. There is a lot more work for Waymo to do before they can drive in more conditions and locations. Snow and heavy rain for example. With almost half a million school buses providing transportation service daily they eclipse the number of trips in one month compared to the 7m+ Waymo is claiming.