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Sadly, the author doesn't understand the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy and neglects the possibility that boys and girls are simply "wired" differently. Mo

Sadly, the author doesn't understand the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy and neglects the possibility that boys and girls are simply "wired" differently. Modern science supports this view as there are significant differences between the brains of both sexes. If you accept biology as given, then wouldn't it be "normal" that boys and girls prefer different toys and children, and that men and women flock into different occupational areas as adults? Also, why are those feminists only lamenting the lack of female engineers? There are many fields that require that kind of analytical thinking, albeit on lower levels. Heck, why not start a, "Get more girls into plumbing!" campaign? Of course, the feminists are only after the cushy office jobs.

lomegor 14y ago
Please if you are going to say that girls are "wired" differently and that's what causes the different likes and dislikes of children, back that up with articles. I have yet to see a study where this had been shown. In fact, I think you are also falling prey to "post hoc ergo propter hoc", in that although women and men's brain are different, that does not mean that they like different toys biologically. I'm sorry that you group all feminists together, but if you had bother to search for women in plumbing you would have found a lot of women and men who call for more women in that area. For example: http://www.my-plumber.co.uk/userfiles/file/Winter%20Newsletter.pdf http://www.my-plumber.co.uk/userfiles/file/Winter%20Newslett...
- factorial 14y ago
  Do a Google search on "IT needs more women", make a mental note of the number of hits you get, and then do a search on "Plumbing needs more women". Please report back which number is bigger. For extra credit, calculate by which factor the first claim is more often made online.
  - lomegor 14y ago
    Oh, I'm sorry, when you said "only" on your first post I thought you meant "only", not "more". But of course people are more interested on getting children interested in engineering. I don't see your point. Do you want your kids to be plumbers making a minimum salary and having unstable jobs?
    - factorial 14y ago
      You'd be surprised how much money plumbers make. Check this out: "Americans want and need working pipes, just like they want and need their trash collected every few days — sanitation being another service always in demand by consumers and not always in demand by job-seekers, and typically pretty well paying as a result. That said, a plumber's earnings vary widely depending on the region in which they work and whether a plumber owns a business that employs others. Journeymen in cities such as New York, Chicago, Los Angeles and Boston are in higher demand and command higher prices — up to about $250,000 a year."[1] It's a respectable profession that pays well. Yet, it apparently enjoys lower status than software engineering, which is why feminists don't claim that plumbing needs more women. Do you know see how disreputable this argument is? The feminists are about the status of office jobs, and couldn't care less about equality. [1]http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1851673,00.html http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1851673,00.ht...

lomegor 14y ago

Please if you are going to say that girls are "wired" differently and that's what causes the different likes and dislikes of children, back that up with articles. I have yet to see a study where this had been shown. In fact, I think you are also falling prey to "post hoc ergo propter hoc", in that although women and men's brain are different, that does not mean that they like different toys biologically. I'm sorry that you group all feminists together, but if you had bother to search for women in plumbing you would have found a lot of women and men who call for more women in that area. For example: http://www.my-plumber.co.uk/userfiles/file/Winter%20Newsletter.pdf http://www.my-plumber.co.uk/userfiles/file/Winter%20Newslett...

factorial 14y ago
Do a Google search on "IT needs more women", make a mental note of the number of hits you get, and then do a search on "Plumbing needs more women". Please report back which number is bigger. For extra credit, calculate by which factor the first claim is more often made online.
- lomegor 14y ago
  Oh, I'm sorry, when you said "only" on your first post I thought you meant "only", not "more". But of course people are more interested on getting children interested in engineering. I don't see your point. Do you want your kids to be plumbers making a minimum salary and having unstable jobs?
  - factorial 14y ago
    You'd be surprised how much money plumbers make. Check this out: "Americans want and need working pipes, just like they want and need their trash collected every few days — sanitation being another service always in demand by consumers and not always in demand by job-seekers, and typically pretty well paying as a result. That said, a plumber's earnings vary widely depending on the region in which they work and whether a plumber owns a business that employs others. Journeymen in cities such as New York, Chicago, Los Angeles and Boston are in higher demand and command higher prices — up to about $250,000 a year."[1] It's a respectable profession that pays well. Yet, it apparently enjoys lower status than software engineering, which is why feminists don't claim that plumbing needs more women. Do you know see how disreputable this argument is? The feminists are about the status of office jobs, and couldn't care less about equality. [1]http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1851673,00.html http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1851673,00.ht...