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UK is also censoring porn sites...

by not_a_dane 2y ago

77pt77 2y ago
At this point Turkey is probably more free than the UK.
- levidos 2y ago
  Can you elaborate please? The UK isn't blocking gay porn sites for example.
  - imwillofficial 2y ago
    I think freedom of speech is an obvious example.
    - rsynnott 2y ago
      … You think freedom of speech is worse in the UK than in Erdogan’s Turkey? Just what do you think is going on in the UK?
      - fullspectrumdev 2y ago
        I’ve noticed Americans get some… extremely weird and biased reporting about free speech in the UK. Extreme outlier cases like that Count Dankula guy get reported as the norm.
    - fullspectrumdev 2y ago
      I think you are smoking crack if you think Turkey has more freedom of speech than the UK.
      - deleted 2y ago
        [deleted]
      - imwillofficial 2y ago
        Do you have any data to support your assertion or are you just making things up?
        fullspectrumdev 2y ago
        Start here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Turkey https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Turkey
        imwillofficial 2y ago
        Thanks!
sph 2y ago
Only with crappy ISPs like Virgin, which has court-mandated DNS bans for many websites (like ThePirateBay) I use Zen which has no such restriction. Though for safety all my illegal activity is done via VPN because this is still a Five Eyes country.
- PaulDavisThe1st 2y ago
  EE also does this by default (you can turn it off, but you have to contact them) EDIT: or is it Three? I can never remember which company provided the last "burner" SIM I got for each trip to the UK.
  - sph 2y ago
    It's Three that asks for credit card numbers before watching the nudes. I actually switched to EE and they have no such restriction.
gambiting 2y ago
Friendly reminder that all ISPs in the UK are required to store your entire browsing history for a full year, and 17 government agencies, including the Department of Agriculture, can access it without a warrant. Snoopers Act has been passed and lives on for years now, and I'm yet to meet a person who is even slightly bothered by it.
- chgs 2y ago
  Except that’s not right https://decoded.legal/blog/2021/06/must-all-uk-internet-access-providers-keep-records-of-which-websites-i-visit/ https://decoded.legal/blog/2021/06/must-all-uk-internet-acce...
  - Footkerchief 2y ago
    > Don’t all ISPs have retention notices? Probably not (for the reasons above), but this is not public information, and ISPs and others subject to retention notices face statutory prohibitions on disclosure. > If all Internet access providers were subject to retention notices, wouldn’t it be easier to say that? There would be no need to dance around issues of secrecy, or explain why the list of notice recipients cannot be published. The fact that the Home Office chooses to take this approach undermines the claim that all providers have notices. This source appears to be engaging in wishful thinking.
    - chgs 2y ago
      The people at my isp insist they don’t store anything other than bandwidth use (which is exposed to me so I know that already) I don’t keep much data at work for that long If it is a thing it’s either a massive conspiracy across thousands of network engineers or you could point to some technical details on how it’s implemented.
      - gambiting 2y ago
        It's not a conspiracy, they just can't say by law. Did you expect them to tell you if they have an order from the Home Office telling them to not divuldge this information under the threat of massive fines and jail time?

UK is also censoring porn sites...

77pt77 2y ago

At this point Turkey is probably more free than the UK.

levidos 2y ago
Can you elaborate please? The UK isn't blocking gay porn sites for example.
- imwillofficial 2y ago
  I think freedom of speech is an obvious example.
  - rsynnott 2y ago
    … You think freedom of speech is worse in the UK than in Erdogan’s Turkey? Just what do you think is going on in the UK?
    - fullspectrumdev 2y ago
      I’ve noticed Americans get some… extremely weird and biased reporting about free speech in the UK. Extreme outlier cases like that Count Dankula guy get reported as the norm.
  - fullspectrumdev 2y ago
    I think you are smoking crack if you think Turkey has more freedom of speech than the UK.
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
    - imwillofficial 2y ago
      Do you have any data to support your assertion or are you just making things up?
      - fullspectrumdev 2y ago
        Start here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Turkey https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Turkey
        imwillofficial 2y ago
        Thanks!

sph 2y ago

Only with crappy ISPs like Virgin, which has court-mandated DNS bans for many websites (like ThePirateBay) I use Zen which has no such restriction. Though for safety all my illegal activity is done via VPN because this is still a Five Eyes country.

PaulDavisThe1st 2y ago
EE also does this by default (you can turn it off, but you have to contact them) EDIT: or is it Three? I can never remember which company provided the last "burner" SIM I got for each trip to the UK.
- sph 2y ago
  It's Three that asks for credit card numbers before watching the nudes. I actually switched to EE and they have no such restriction.

gambiting 2y ago

Friendly reminder that all ISPs in the UK are required to store your entire browsing history for a full year, and 17 government agencies, including the Department of Agriculture, can access it without a warrant. Snoopers Act has been passed and lives on for years now, and I'm yet to meet a person who is even slightly bothered by it.

chgs 2y ago
Except that’s not right https://decoded.legal/blog/2021/06/must-all-uk-internet-access-providers-keep-records-of-which-websites-i-visit/ https://decoded.legal/blog/2021/06/must-all-uk-internet-acce...
- Footkerchief 2y ago
  > Don’t all ISPs have retention notices? Probably not (for the reasons above), but this is not public information, and ISPs and others subject to retention notices face statutory prohibitions on disclosure. > If all Internet access providers were subject to retention notices, wouldn’t it be easier to say that? There would be no need to dance around issues of secrecy, or explain why the list of notice recipients cannot be published. The fact that the Home Office chooses to take this approach undermines the claim that all providers have notices. This source appears to be engaging in wishful thinking.
  - chgs 2y ago
    The people at my isp insist they don’t store anything other than bandwidth use (which is exposed to me so I know that already) I don’t keep much data at work for that long If it is a thing it’s either a massive conspiracy across thousands of network engineers or you could point to some technical details on how it’s implemented.
    - gambiting 2y ago
      It's not a conspiracy, they just can't say by law. Did you expect them to tell you if they have an order from the Home Office telling them to not divuldge this information under the threat of massive fines and jail time?