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The Oxford English Dictionary's latest update adds 23 Japanese words

9 points by amin 2y ago

082349872349872 2y ago
my current favourite bit of japanese: 関係ない(kankeinai) "this is superfluous: its connection with what we are talking about has a weight ~0"
- chaorace 2y ago
  Expanding on that for the benefit of those who may find joy in trifling: - Noun: 関係 [kankei] -- A noun which roughly means relations/involvement - Component Kanji --- 関: Semantically equates to "connection" --- 係: Semantically equates to "participation" - Verb: ない [nai] -- A foundational verb which inverts ある [aru]. ある is how you concretely indicate that something exists in a specific way. ない is how you concretely indicate that something exists NOT in that specific way. So... putting it all together; the phrase is a grammatically complete utterance that more or less says "this is anything but material to that". Something which this rough translation fails to convey is the flexibility of the saying -- depending on context it can be used to communicate anything from "that's irrelevant" to... "none of my business" or even... "none of your concern"
jmholla 2y ago
The article doesn't dive into all the words (it only covers eight of them). I found them in a different article https://maynkmodi.substack.com/p/23-new-japanese-words-made-it-to https://maynkmodi.substack.com/p/23-new-japanese-words-made-...: > donburi, hibachi, isekai, kagome, karaage, katsu,curry, kintsugi, kirigami, mangaka, okonomiyaki, omotenashi, onigiri, santoku, shibori, takoyaki, tokusatsu, tonkatsu sauce, tonkotsu, washi tape, yakiniku (katsu and tonkatsu have two definitions.)
- wolverine876 2y ago
  Here's the OED's press release with more detail: https://s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/com.idmgroup.oed100.sounds.prod/wp-content/uploads/OED-Japanese-update-March-2024-PR-FINAL-2.docx https://s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/com.idmgroup.oed100.sound... In Japanese: https://s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/com.idmgroup.oed100.sounds.prod/wp-content/uploads/FINALIZED_JAPANESE-OED-Japanese-update-March-2024-PR-FINAL.docx https://s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/com.idmgroup.oed100.sound... And a list of all the new words in this update, not just Japanese https://www.oed.com/information/updates/march-2024/new-word-entries/ https://www.oed.com/information/updates/march-2024/new-word-...

9 points by amin 2y ago

my current favourite bit of japanese: 関係ない(kankeinai) "this is superfluous: its connection with what we are talking about has a weight ~0"

chaorace 2y ago
Expanding on that for the benefit of those who may find joy in trifling: - Noun: 関係 [kankei] -- A noun which roughly means relations/involvement - Component Kanji --- 関: Semantically equates to "connection" --- 係: Semantically equates to "participation" - Verb: ない [nai] -- A foundational verb which inverts ある [aru]. ある is how you concretely indicate that something exists in a specific way. ない is how you concretely indicate that something exists NOT in that specific way. So... putting it all together; the phrase is a grammatically complete utterance that more or less says "this is anything but material to that". Something which this rough translation fails to convey is the flexibility of the saying -- depending on context it can be used to communicate anything from "that's irrelevant" to... "none of my business" or even... "none of your concern"

jmholla 2y ago

The article doesn't dive into all the words (it only covers eight of them). I found them in a different article https://maynkmodi.substack.com/p/23-new-japanese-words-made-it-to https://maynkmodi.substack.com/p/23-new-japanese-words-made-...: > donburi, hibachi, isekai, kagome, karaage, katsu,curry, kintsugi, kirigami, mangaka, okonomiyaki, omotenashi, onigiri, santoku, shibori, takoyaki, tokusatsu, tonkatsu sauce, tonkotsu, washi tape, yakiniku (katsu and tonkatsu have two definitions.)

wolverine876 2y ago
Here's the OED's press release with more detail: https://s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/com.idmgroup.oed100.sounds.prod/wp-content/uploads/OED-Japanese-update-March-2024-PR-FINAL-2.docx https://s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/com.idmgroup.oed100.sound... In Japanese: https://s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/com.idmgroup.oed100.sounds.prod/wp-content/uploads/FINALIZED_JAPANESE-OED-Japanese-update-March-2024-PR-FINAL.docx https://s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/com.idmgroup.oed100.sound... And a list of all the new words in this update, not just Japanese https://www.oed.com/information/updates/march-2024/new-word-entries/ https://www.oed.com/information/updates/march-2024/new-word-...