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Not a single one of you bigbrains used the word "maxima" correctly and it's driving me crazy.

vlovich123 2y ago
As I understand it a local maxima means you’re at a local peak but there may be higher maximums elsewhere. As I read it, transformers are a local maximum in the sense of outperforming all other ML techniques as the AI technique that gets the closest to human intelligence. Can you help my little brain understand the problem by elaborating? Also you may want to chill with the personal attacks.
- erisinger 2y ago
  Not a personal attack. These posters are smarter than I am, just ribbing them about misusing the terminology. "Maxima" is plural, "maximum" is singular. So you would say "a local maximum," or "several local maxima." Not "a local maxima" or, the one that really got me, "getting trapped in local maxima's." As for the rest of it, carry on. Good discussion.
  - FeepingCreature 2y ago
    A local maxima, that is, /usr/bin/wxmaxima...
    - erisinger 2y ago
      Touché...
  - gyrovagueGeist 2y ago
    While "local maximas" is wrong, I think "a local maxima" is a valid way to say "a member of the set of local maxima" regardless of the number of elements in the set. It could even be a singleton.
    - Tijdreiziger 2y ago
      You can't have one maxima in the same way you can't have one pencils. That's just how English works.
      - pixl97 2y ago
        You can't have one local maxima, it would be the global maxima. So by saying local maxima you're assuming the local is just a piece of a larger whole, even if that global state is otherwise undefined.
        reverius42 2y ago
        No, you can’t have one local maxima, or one global maxima, because it’s plural. You can have one local or global maximum, or two (or more) local or global maxima.
        folli 2y ago
        "You can't have one local pencils, it would be the global pencils"
    - dragonwriter 2y ago
      No, a member of the set of local maxima is a a local maximum, just like a member of the set of people is a person, because it is a definite singular. The plural is also used for indefinite number, so “the set of local maxima” remains correct even if the set has cardinality 1, but a member of the set has definite singular number irrespective of the cardinality of the set.
      - gyrovagueGeist 2y ago
        I've been convinced, thanks!
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tschwimmer 2y ago
yeah, not a Nissan in sight
antonvs 2y ago
“Maxima” sounds fancy, making it catnip for people trying to sound smart.
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As I understand it a local maxima means you’re at a local peak but there may be higher maximums elsewhere. As I read it, transformers are a local maximum in the sense of outperforming all other ML techniques as the AI technique that gets the closest to human intelligence. Can you help my little brain understand the problem by elaborating? Also you may want to chill with the personal attacks.

erisinger 2y ago
Not a personal attack. These posters are smarter than I am, just ribbing them about misusing the terminology. "Maxima" is plural, "maximum" is singular. So you would say "a local maximum," or "several local maxima." Not "a local maxima" or, the one that really got me, "getting trapped in local maxima's." As for the rest of it, carry on. Good discussion.
- FeepingCreature 2y ago
  A local maxima, that is, /usr/bin/wxmaxima...
  - erisinger 2y ago
    Touché...
- gyrovagueGeist 2y ago
  While "local maximas" is wrong, I think "a local maxima" is a valid way to say "a member of the set of local maxima" regardless of the number of elements in the set. It could even be a singleton.
  - Tijdreiziger 2y ago
    You can't have one maxima in the same way you can't have one pencils. That's just how English works.
    - pixl97 2y ago
      You can't have one local maxima, it would be the global maxima. So by saying local maxima you're assuming the local is just a piece of a larger whole, even if that global state is otherwise undefined.
      - reverius42 2y ago
        No, you can’t have one local maxima, or one global maxima, because it’s plural. You can have one local or global maximum, or two (or more) local or global maxima.
      - folli 2y ago
        "You can't have one local pencils, it would be the global pencils"
  - dragonwriter 2y ago
    No, a member of the set of local maxima is a a local maximum, just like a member of the set of people is a person, because it is a definite singular. The plural is also used for indefinite number, so “the set of local maxima” remains correct even if the set has cardinality 1, but a member of the set has definite singular number irrespective of the cardinality of the set.
    - gyrovagueGeist 2y ago
      I've been convinced, thanks!

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tschwimmer 2y ago

yeah, not a Nissan in sight

antonvs 2y ago

“Maxima” sounds fancy, making it catnip for people trying to sound smart.

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