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Food, and therefore nutrition, is significantly more complicated than a ledger of macronutrients. In this particular case, I was getting at this: https://www.b

• samatman 2y ago
  > Ultra-processed foods, as defined using the Nova food classification system, encompass a broad range of ready to eat products, including packaged snacks, carbonated soft drinks, instant noodles, and ready-made meals. I'm not seeing the relevance.
  • Emma_Goldman 2y ago
    The list of illustrative examples may be misleading you. It is a wide category. Look at the Nova classification, then look at the ingredients list of meat substitutes. There is no debate on this point. See also: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/feb/12/quorn-revolution-rise-ultra-processed-fake-meat https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/feb/12/quorn-r...
  • InSteady 2y ago
    Quorn and other meat substitutes most certainly fit the criteria of ultra-processed foods, and as such may be implicated in poor health outcomes if they make up a significant portion of one's diet.
    • hombre_fatal 2y ago
      We can do better than "it's processed so it's bad". The SWAP-MEAT trial concluded that processed alt-meat products improved health markers over animal meat: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32780794/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32780794/ > Among generally healthy adults, contrasting Plant with Animal intake, while keeping all other dietary components similar, the Plant products improved several cardiovascular disease risk factors, including TMAO; there were no adverse effects on risk factors from the Plant products.