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TIL the PlayStation 3 is used (on a grid/cluster of 16) as a viable alternative to Supercomputers by Physics researchers, this grid calculates how black holes c
by brezelgoring 2y ago
TIL the PlayStation 3 is used (on a grid/cluster of 16) as a viable alternative to Supercomputers by Physics researchers, this grid calculates how black holes collapse (!). I assume this is a cost-cutting measure by the researchers, and it makes me think how much more expensive a ‘supercomputer’ is and why, if it can be suitably replaced by the console with no games.
- xcv123 2y agoThat continued with researchers using cheap gaming GPUs for simulations. Today a single Nvidia 4090 GPU exceeds the performance of that PS3 cluster.
- pezezin 2y ago"Exceeds" is an understatement. The Cell CPU had a maximum performance of 200 GFLOPS of FP32. A Nvidia 4090 has 73 TFLOPS of FP32, equivalent to 360 PS3.
- xcv123 2y agoFor physics simulations they are using double precision. They increased the cluster to 400 PS3s so it continued to be useful in the 2010's. https://web.uri.edu/gravity/ps3/ https://web.uri.edu/gravity/ps3/ But I guess the cluster overhead would reduce performance to less than a 4090 in real applications.
- pezezin 2y agoOh, in that case consumer GPUs absolutely suck at FP64, the vendors want you to buy the expensive data-center version. The RTX 4090 has a 1/64 rate when computing with FP64, so only 1.2 TFLOPS! But from what I can find, the Cell also sucked at FP64, with a rate of 1/10 for a total of 15 GFLOPS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_technical_specifications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_technical_specif... , second paragraph). The 400 PS3 cluster would be 6 TFLOPS or 5x RTX 4090.
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- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y agoI think they may have done that because Sony used the PS3 as a loss leader?