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Old style interface on a development focused lemmy instance has completely replaced reddit usage for me This is the equivalent of /r/all across the lemmy world

by WA9ACE 2y ago

Old style interface on a development focused lemmy instance has completely replaced reddit usage for me This is the equivalent of /r/all across the lemmy world https://old.programming.dev/?sort=Active&listingType=All https://old.programming.dev/?sort=Active&listingType=All

europeanNyan 2y ago
It looks like Old Reddit, but the content is New Reddit. It's just a stream of political dreck and virtue signalling. I really don't need to see Trump in every second post and read about people who hate cars, meat, Twitter, Reddit, etc.
- Goronmon 2y ago
  I really don't need to see Trump in every second post and read about people who hate cars, meat, Twitter, Reddit, etc. Exactly. All I see online is people talking about politics, their jobs, their families, their hobbies, the environment, technology, etc.
- piaste 2y ago
  Yeah, Lemmy is a pretty decent platform but the suggestion of browsing "All" is godawful, if one is looking for something closer to pre-smartphone internet. You need to curate your homepage a bit to get a good Lemmy experience. The tech side may be like Reddit, but the human aspect is more like a couple dozen vBulletin forums rolled into one. Some of the instances are (imo) full of straight-up insane and, worse, perpetually angry people. Some instance admins may be power-hungry and prone to drama - but you might not care if the only subreddit you follow from their instance is c/jazz and you just click on Youtube/Spotify links from it. Is it a pain? Yes. But I still prefer to deal with a couple dozen weirdos than with a single billion-dollar company.
  - dingnuts 2y ago
    >Some of the instances are (imo) full of straight-up insane and, worse, perpetually angry people This has been true for every instance of every Fedi thing I've ever tried to use or thought of using. And many instances block single-user instances so forget about running your own unless you only want to interact with the absolute fringest nutjob basement-dwellers -- because the "mainstream" Fedi is already fringe. I once had the dumb impulse to reply to someone who was mad about fluoride in drinking water with "you probably get more fluoride from your toothpaste" and I deleted my account as I started to receive arguments about brushing your teeth, as it made me realize exactly the kind of people I would be interacting with on this network. Honestly I think this is grows out of the incentives for operating a homeserver. There's a negative financial incentive so you must have some other kind of motivator, likely a desire for influence or power.
    - mardef 2y ago
      Similarly, I replied to someone suggesting they pay for a service and I received multiple replies suggesting I kill myself. This wasn't on some random Marxist community, this was on one of the big tech communities.
      - bombcar 2y ago
        Internet death threats are so common and boring that I only notice the amusingly new ones, like “I hope you can take advantage of Canadian healthcare.”
    - ctrw 2y ago
      The way to save the internet is to force everyone to have a recent picture of themselves next to any post they make.
      - chownie 2y ago
        That would almost certainly end up with the internet becoming one gigantic linkedin and everyone leaving it to flock to whichever underground 4chan-esque service pops up with a promise of pseudonymity.
      - karmakurtisaani 2y ago
        Is that why Facebook is such a nice and balanced website?
        ctrw 2y ago
        You uncle McRacy doesn't have 200,000 followers. Your cousin McFatt does.
      - matheusmoreira 2y ago
        That's actually how you kill the internet. This won't change people's minds. They'll still think all those "offensive" things. They just won't post them publicly anymore because of the social consequences. You'll never know what people are really thinking. I prefer to know. I want to experience the full spectrum of humanity.
- dzikimarian 2y ago
  Hate is keyword here. I really wanted to like Lemmy, but almost all instances are full of frustrated hateful people. Even if sometimes rightfully it's still to toxic. Wild tankies appearing here and there are no help either.
- rglullis 2y ago
  Sorry to say "you are holding it wrong", but browsing by all is just terrible. Much like reddit, things improve a lot if you subscribe to the communities that interest you and ignore everything else. Granted, Lemmy's issue is that the user base is not large enough to have developed a long tail of interesting communities, but hopefully this will change as it grows. Also, I know that finding the communities is difficult, so I've put together a website to work as a crowdsource of reddit-to-lemmy communities, https://fediverser.network https://fediverser.network
account42 2y ago
How's the built in censorship and cultural bias with Lemmy?
- huytersd 2y ago
  Good, it leans left, but not so far left that it’s just LGBTQ/feminist spam. It doesn’t have a bunch of right wing trolls so far. It’s like the early days of Reddit.
  - ecshafer 2y ago
    The early days of Reddit was heavily libertarian, if only reddit voted in 2008 and 2012, Ron Paul would have been a two term president.
    - thereticent 2y ago
      That's correct. When people speak of the early days of Reddit it seems like they are talking about whatever time long ago they initially joined. I'm always hesitant to make accounts on new sites, so I thought I had waited a long time to join officially, but I ended up being in the first 500 accounts! From the earliest days (the del.icio.us to Reddit influx) it was a very libertarian place. Sometimes annoyingly so. Reddit has shifted so many times over the nearly 2 decades, but most who stay for a long time have realized that it's great for pocket communities in smaller subreddits, as long as they last and aren't co-opted. The bots are the worst part at the moment.
    - huytersd 2y ago
      It was a pretty left leaning libertarian though. As soon as those racist papers he authored came out he quickly fell off of Reddit’s radar. Not to mention, he co-opted at lot of the left’s iconography with his re”love”ution campaign.
    - crmd 2y ago
      I remember in the early days of reddit there was a guy who would post links to his Austrian economics / Murray Rothbard blog every day, and they would end up on the front page because they had like 50 upvotes.
jcrash 2y ago
Thanks for this link, this is great

by WA9ACE 2y ago

europeanNyan 2y ago

It looks like Old Reddit, but the content is New Reddit. It's just a stream of political dreck and virtue signalling. I really don't need to see Trump in every second post and read about people who hate cars, meat, Twitter, Reddit, etc.

Goronmon 2y ago
I really don't need to see Trump in every second post and read about people who hate cars, meat, Twitter, Reddit, etc. Exactly. All I see online is people talking about politics, their jobs, their families, their hobbies, the environment, technology, etc.
piaste 2y ago
Yeah, Lemmy is a pretty decent platform but the suggestion of browsing "All" is godawful, if one is looking for something closer to pre-smartphone internet. You need to curate your homepage a bit to get a good Lemmy experience. The tech side may be like Reddit, but the human aspect is more like a couple dozen vBulletin forums rolled into one. Some of the instances are (imo) full of straight-up insane and, worse, perpetually angry people. Some instance admins may be power-hungry and prone to drama - but you might not care if the only subreddit you follow from their instance is c/jazz and you just click on Youtube/Spotify links from it. Is it a pain? Yes. But I still prefer to deal with a couple dozen weirdos than with a single billion-dollar company.
- dingnuts 2y ago
  >Some of the instances are (imo) full of straight-up insane and, worse, perpetually angry people This has been true for every instance of every Fedi thing I've ever tried to use or thought of using. And many instances block single-user instances so forget about running your own unless you only want to interact with the absolute fringest nutjob basement-dwellers -- because the "mainstream" Fedi is already fringe. I once had the dumb impulse to reply to someone who was mad about fluoride in drinking water with "you probably get more fluoride from your toothpaste" and I deleted my account as I started to receive arguments about brushing your teeth, as it made me realize exactly the kind of people I would be interacting with on this network. Honestly I think this is grows out of the incentives for operating a homeserver. There's a negative financial incentive so you must have some other kind of motivator, likely a desire for influence or power.
  - mardef 2y ago
    Similarly, I replied to someone suggesting they pay for a service and I received multiple replies suggesting I kill myself. This wasn't on some random Marxist community, this was on one of the big tech communities.
    - bombcar 2y ago
      Internet death threats are so common and boring that I only notice the amusingly new ones, like “I hope you can take advantage of Canadian healthcare.”
  - ctrw 2y ago
    The way to save the internet is to force everyone to have a recent picture of themselves next to any post they make.
    - chownie 2y ago
      That would almost certainly end up with the internet becoming one gigantic linkedin and everyone leaving it to flock to whichever underground 4chan-esque service pops up with a promise of pseudonymity.
    - karmakurtisaani 2y ago
      Is that why Facebook is such a nice and balanced website?
      - ctrw 2y ago
        You uncle McRacy doesn't have 200,000 followers. Your cousin McFatt does.
    - matheusmoreira 2y ago
      That's actually how you kill the internet. This won't change people's minds. They'll still think all those "offensive" things. They just won't post them publicly anymore because of the social consequences. You'll never know what people are really thinking. I prefer to know. I want to experience the full spectrum of humanity.
dzikimarian 2y ago
Hate is keyword here. I really wanted to like Lemmy, but almost all instances are full of frustrated hateful people. Even if sometimes rightfully it's still to toxic. Wild tankies appearing here and there are no help either.
rglullis 2y ago
Sorry to say "you are holding it wrong", but browsing by all is just terrible. Much like reddit, things improve a lot if you subscribe to the communities that interest you and ignore everything else. Granted, Lemmy's issue is that the user base is not large enough to have developed a long tail of interesting communities, but hopefully this will change as it grows. Also, I know that finding the communities is difficult, so I've put together a website to work as a crowdsource of reddit-to-lemmy communities, https://fediverser.network https://fediverser.network

account42 2y ago

How's the built in censorship and cultural bias with Lemmy?

huytersd 2y ago
Good, it leans left, but not so far left that it’s just LGBTQ/feminist spam. It doesn’t have a bunch of right wing trolls so far. It’s like the early days of Reddit.
- ecshafer 2y ago
  The early days of Reddit was heavily libertarian, if only reddit voted in 2008 and 2012, Ron Paul would have been a two term president.
  - thereticent 2y ago
    That's correct. When people speak of the early days of Reddit it seems like they are talking about whatever time long ago they initially joined. I'm always hesitant to make accounts on new sites, so I thought I had waited a long time to join officially, but I ended up being in the first 500 accounts! From the earliest days (the del.icio.us to Reddit influx) it was a very libertarian place. Sometimes annoyingly so. Reddit has shifted so many times over the nearly 2 decades, but most who stay for a long time have realized that it's great for pocket communities in smaller subreddits, as long as they last and aren't co-opted. The bots are the worst part at the moment.
  - huytersd 2y ago
    It was a pretty left leaning libertarian though. As soon as those racist papers he authored came out he quickly fell off of Reddit’s radar. Not to mention, he co-opted at lot of the left’s iconography with his re”love”ution campaign.
  - crmd 2y ago
    I remember in the early days of reddit there was a guy who would post links to his Austrian economics / Murray Rothbard blog every day, and they would end up on the front page because they had like 50 upvotes.

jcrash 2y ago

Thanks for this link, this is great