4 ms·

Steal your repos? So you don't have them anymore because they took them? Maybe ask nicely to have them back and with a bit of luck they'll give them back to you

Steal your repos? So you don't have them anymore because they took them? Maybe ask nicely to have them back and with a bit of luck they'll give them back to you.

calvinmorrison 2y ago
reproducing my work without license is theft.
- rpdillon 2y ago
  I mean, this is a matter of law, and it isn't. It's a curious point to double down on.
bevekspldnw 2y ago
Curiously, the people most vociferous about digital copying of IP not being “theft” tend to be those people who have produced the least amount of original IP. Surprisingly, the people generating real, novel, IP like to buy groceries now and then.
- mik1998 2y ago
  Absurd, presumably anecdotal claim. My own anecdotal experience is that it has no relation and I know many people who have violated the copyright on the IP they themselves produced.
  - calvinmorrison 2y ago
    how does one violate their own copyright? I mean, its my IP, I am free to license, distribute, and so forth as I see fit, there's an implicit "All Rights Reserved".
    - mik1998 2y ago
      People who produce IP either by work for hire or by selling their copyright rights. I've had people "steal" IP by sending me a PDF of a paper they wrote whose copyright resides with their university. Not the typical image of a thief.
rpdillon 2y ago
This is a sound point, even if it's being made a bit sarcastically. Copyright and intellectual property are an entirely different body of law than property rights, and people most often conflate them as an emotionally charged rhetorical technique that's generally rooted in a dissatisfaction that intellectual property and physical property are treated differently. The use of the word "steal" in this context is probably to incite readers to their cause, but ends up just sounding sophomoric to people that know anything about intellectual property law. It's a shame because the GP had some valuable information to share about the emails software heritage was sending, but likely got downvoted because of this.
- calvinmorrison 2y ago
  Problem is GP (me) is a dickhead about it. but frankly, it's not the first time. Github (after purchase by microsoft) did the same thing to my code. They reproduced it and put it on ice in some place in norway. That was the guise right? I mean I am sure they did, but you can bet your ass they're also using my code to train their AI. Most of it was not licensed. It was publicly available as a portfolio so people would see I write serious code and would hire me. So then I took down my entire github after being informed I was enrolled, couldn't opt out, etc, and then some OTHER foundation is now scanning my self hosted git repos? That made my blood BOIL!

Steal your repos? So you don't have them anymore because they took them? Maybe ask nicely to have them back and with a bit of luck they'll give them back to you.

calvinmorrison 2y ago

reproducing my work without license is theft.

rpdillon 2y ago
I mean, this is a matter of law, and it isn't. It's a curious point to double down on.

bevekspldnw 2y ago

Curiously, the people most vociferous about digital copying of IP not being “theft” tend to be those people who have produced the least amount of original IP. Surprisingly, the people generating real, novel, IP like to buy groceries now and then.

mik1998 2y ago
Absurd, presumably anecdotal claim. My own anecdotal experience is that it has no relation and I know many people who have violated the copyright on the IP they themselves produced.
- calvinmorrison 2y ago
  how does one violate their own copyright? I mean, its my IP, I am free to license, distribute, and so forth as I see fit, there's an implicit "All Rights Reserved".
  - mik1998 2y ago
    People who produce IP either by work for hire or by selling their copyright rights. I've had people "steal" IP by sending me a PDF of a paper they wrote whose copyright resides with their university. Not the typical image of a thief.

rpdillon 2y ago

This is a sound point, even if it's being made a bit sarcastically. Copyright and intellectual property are an entirely different body of law than property rights, and people most often conflate them as an emotionally charged rhetorical technique that's generally rooted in a dissatisfaction that intellectual property and physical property are treated differently. The use of the word "steal" in this context is probably to incite readers to their cause, but ends up just sounding sophomoric to people that know anything about intellectual property law. It's a shame because the GP had some valuable information to share about the emails software heritage was sending, but likely got downvoted because of this.

calvinmorrison 2y ago
Problem is GP (me) is a dickhead about it. but frankly, it's not the first time. Github (after purchase by microsoft) did the same thing to my code. They reproduced it and put it on ice in some place in norway. That was the guise right? I mean I am sure they did, but you can bet your ass they're also using my code to train their AI. Most of it was not licensed. It was publicly available as a portfolio so people would see I write serious code and would hire me. So then I took down my entire github after being informed I was enrolled, couldn't opt out, etc, and then some OTHER foundation is now scanning my self hosted git repos? That made my blood BOIL!