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Archived non paywall copy of the article: https://archive.is/iRIlp https://archive.is/iRIlp

pksebben 2y ago
Cheers to you, good citizen. I wish more people started with such links rather than waiting for someone else to make it easy to have a discussion.
- mvdtnz 2y ago
  That's a violation of HN guidelines.
  - pksebben 2y ago
    Is it really? TIL, thanks. edit: Arguable. I assume your referring to: Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter. ...and I might argue that an archive of the original is just as good, judging by the verbiage referring to "If a post reports on...". Archive links don't change, remove, or add any context, they just make it accessible. I suppose if we wanted to know this in specifics, it'd be a question for dang.
  - itsoktocry 2y ago
    Posting paywalled links should be, as well. It's borderline marketing. If I pay for the source, I don't need to find it on HN.
    - swyx 2y ago
      not true. hn surfaces quality and adds discussion. and the people who wrote the content need acknowledgement/attribution, and some conversion to paying, or they'll eventually stop. do you think good reporting/writing just falls from the sky?
      - uaserussia 2y ago
        It comes from imputing the facts into GPT 3.5 and asking it to write an article.
  - amingilani 2y ago
    Sorry, what is? It isn’t to post or ask for archival links. It’s only a contravention if someone complains about paywalls.
    - sp332 2y ago
      When I try posting archived links, they are auto-dead.
- shagie 2y ago
  It makes searching for repeated or similar articles difficult. For example - https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=forbes.com/sites/iainmartin https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=forbes.com/sites/iain... Linking to archive (which incidentally gets into loops for me with the captcha) means that I can't see the original article either (or use other methods to try to find reproductions). Meanwhile, even though I hit the "please get a subscription" for Forbes, I can click the reader mode and read the page in its entirety.

Cheers to you, good citizen. I wish more people started with such links rather than waiting for someone else to make it easy to have a discussion.

mvdtnz 2y ago
That's a violation of HN guidelines.
- pksebben 2y ago
  Is it really? TIL, thanks. edit: Arguable. I assume your referring to: Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter. ...and I might argue that an archive of the original is just as good, judging by the verbiage referring to "If a post reports on...". Archive links don't change, remove, or add any context, they just make it accessible. I suppose if we wanted to know this in specifics, it'd be a question for dang.
- itsoktocry 2y ago
  Posting paywalled links should be, as well. It's borderline marketing. If I pay for the source, I don't need to find it on HN.
  - swyx 2y ago
    not true. hn surfaces quality and adds discussion. and the people who wrote the content need acknowledgement/attribution, and some conversion to paying, or they'll eventually stop. do you think good reporting/writing just falls from the sky?
    - uaserussia 2y ago
      It comes from imputing the facts into GPT 3.5 and asking it to write an article.
- amingilani 2y ago
  Sorry, what is? It isn’t to post or ask for archival links. It’s only a contravention if someone complains about paywalls.
  - sp332 2y ago
    When I try posting archived links, they are auto-dead.
shagie 2y ago
It makes searching for repeated or similar articles difficult. For example - https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=forbes.com/sites/iainmartin https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=forbes.com/sites/iain... Linking to archive (which incidentally gets into loops for me with the captcha) means that I can't see the original article either (or use other methods to try to find reproductions). Meanwhile, even though I hit the "please get a subscription" for Forbes, I can click the reader mode and read the page in its entirety.