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> Do you believe that AGI is possible? Yes. A bunch of atoms orbiting around a star ended up in a configuration that can think. Our star dust human brains. The

> Do you believe that AGI is possible? Yes. A bunch of atoms orbiting around a star ended up in a configuration that can think. Our star dust human brains. The fact we exist proves atoms can be configured to have GI (no need to call it artificial). I don't believe in souls created by divine intervention. So I believe the essence of life or intelligence is something that can be created by us. The same way gravitational and chemical forces led to the human brain. What is possible has barely been explored at all.

pants2 2y ago
But it may be entirely possible that there's some form of intelligence that can't be replicated by digital computers. Humans are very analog after all.
- theGeatZhopa 2y ago
  I see it as "humans have a lot of sensors and Data coming in to be processed". for generation of some knowledge or logical thinking and reasoning, no controller for muscles of tongue, vocal chords, breathing, etc is needed. So if you take off, whatever is needed in and for our brain to keep the brain alive and to controll the body, there will be much less neurons left and then the question arise from my side: Is it just the difference how a neuron (analog) and LLM (weights. Time and value discrete) work? Or is it the grade of connection and interlinking between the neurons, that makes the difference, if compared to the inner workings of an LLM? If it's interconnection and interlinking, then more training on more parameters and some future data structures will surely help. If it's the inner workings of a neuron, new attention mechanism or new techniques for "querying" could do the game... For me, we already have a "intelligence". It's just still dumb xD
- codethatwerks 2y ago
  I believe it is probably possible due to the very very mathematical nature of the universe and it’s reliable calculability. The only difference might be semiconductors might thermally not be able to do it since to dissipate the heat you need distance which then limits communication speed due to c and you might need that speed. OTOH we can do tricks evolution missed so there is that. Quantization isn’t available for grey matter.
nprateem 2y ago
> A bunch of atoms orbiting around a star ended up in a configuration that can think And perhaps an unknown quantity of perhaps unidentified other ingredients. "Of course cars drive themselves. Every day I see them driving on the roads from my top-floor office"

pants2 2y ago

But it may be entirely possible that there's some form of intelligence that can't be replicated by digital computers. Humans are very analog after all.

theGeatZhopa 2y ago
I see it as "humans have a lot of sensors and Data coming in to be processed". for generation of some knowledge or logical thinking and reasoning, no controller for muscles of tongue, vocal chords, breathing, etc is needed. So if you take off, whatever is needed in and for our brain to keep the brain alive and to controll the body, there will be much less neurons left and then the question arise from my side: Is it just the difference how a neuron (analog) and LLM (weights. Time and value discrete) work? Or is it the grade of connection and interlinking between the neurons, that makes the difference, if compared to the inner workings of an LLM? If it's interconnection and interlinking, then more training on more parameters and some future data structures will surely help. If it's the inner workings of a neuron, new attention mechanism or new techniques for "querying" could do the game... For me, we already have a "intelligence". It's just still dumb xD
codethatwerks 2y ago
I believe it is probably possible due to the very very mathematical nature of the universe and it’s reliable calculability. The only difference might be semiconductors might thermally not be able to do it since to dissipate the heat you need distance which then limits communication speed due to c and you might need that speed. OTOH we can do tricks evolution missed so there is that. Quantization isn’t available for grey matter.

nprateem 2y ago

> A bunch of atoms orbiting around a star ended up in a configuration that can think And perhaps an unknown quantity of perhaps unidentified other ingredients. "Of course cars drive themselves. Every day I see them driving on the roads from my top-floor office"