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is it really a win on MSFT part though?

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vineyardmike 3y ago
Absolutely. Pi (their chat bot) is pretty nice to talk to. It’s really good with the whole para-social aspect of chatting without being weird. Is that useful? Maybe for research, probably less so for a direct product.Microsoft can probably get something useful from that. More importantly though, Microsoft is now hosting a whole suite of LLMs on Azure. This is the lesson they learned after OpenAI had that acute leadership crisis. This is another hedge against OpenAI. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Microsoft start distancing themselves from OpenAI in the future.
- turnsout 3y ago
  Pi is nice to talk to because unlike other chatbots, it always, always, always asks a follow-up question. I'd love to see the system prompt. That's what's driving their claim of high engagement—the bot just keeps drilling you with questions, and for some people, the bait is irresistible.
  - petre 2y ago
    Not only follow up questions, but it also gives straight answers without bs, lecturing the user, claiming the model is somehow limited or flat out refusals which are Gemini's specialty.
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zooq_ai 3y ago
It is not. Mustafa Suleyman is the ultimate AI grifter. He has ZERO technical skills. ZERO hardcore STEM background. He was just friends with Demis at the right time and road that hype train. At Google he had a similar role VP of AI products or something and he contributed nothing (except all the garbage ethics, safety crap that didn't help google, probably kneecapped it actually) This is Satya Nadella's worst AI move yet.
- option 3y ago
  I am not sure why you are being down voted. Track record matters.
- bee_rider 3y ago
  AI safety and ethics are a big deal. Nobody wants to buy a big heap of linear algebra. A big heap of linear algebra that is so close to becoming sentient that we have to plan what its ethics should be? Where do I put my money?!? If you ask engineers to sell linear algebra, they invent things like control systems, which are too tricky to sell.
  - rllearneratwork 3y ago
    "AI safety and ethics are a big deal" - yes. But no bigger deal and, arguably, a smaller deal compared to software safety and ethics.
- rvz 3y ago
  > (except all the garbage ethics, safety crap that didn't help google, probably kneecapped it actually) Yes. Inflection's AI was just too useless and safe to be of any use and ultimately made no money. > This is Satya Nadella's worst AI move yet. We'll see. But I predict that Inflection AI will eventually sunset Pi.
- petre 2y ago
  "AI ethics" from a person booted based on allegations of coworker bullying?

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Absolutely. Pi (their chat bot) is pretty nice to talk to. It’s really good with the whole para-social aspect of chatting without being weird. Is that useful? Maybe for research, probably less so for a direct product.Microsoft can probably get something useful from that. More importantly though, Microsoft is now hosting a whole suite of LLMs on Azure. This is the lesson they learned after OpenAI had that acute leadership crisis. This is another hedge against OpenAI. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Microsoft start distancing themselves from OpenAI in the future.

turnsout 3y ago
Pi is nice to talk to because unlike other chatbots, it always, always, always asks a follow-up question. I'd love to see the system prompt. That's what's driving their claim of high engagement—the bot just keeps drilling you with questions, and for some people, the bait is irresistible.
- petre 2y ago
  Not only follow up questions, but it also gives straight answers without bs, lecturing the user, claiming the model is somehow limited or flat out refusals which are Gemini's specialty.

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zooq_ai 3y ago

It is not. Mustafa Suleyman is the ultimate AI grifter. He has ZERO technical skills. ZERO hardcore STEM background. He was just friends with Demis at the right time and road that hype train. At Google he had a similar role VP of AI products or something and he contributed nothing (except all the garbage ethics, safety crap that didn't help google, probably kneecapped it actually) This is Satya Nadella's worst AI move yet.

option 3y ago
I am not sure why you are being down voted. Track record matters.
bee_rider 3y ago
AI safety and ethics are a big deal. Nobody wants to buy a big heap of linear algebra. A big heap of linear algebra that is so close to becoming sentient that we have to plan what its ethics should be? Where do I put my money?!? If you ask engineers to sell linear algebra, they invent things like control systems, which are too tricky to sell.
- rllearneratwork 3y ago
  "AI safety and ethics are a big deal" - yes. But no bigger deal and, arguably, a smaller deal compared to software safety and ethics.
rvz 3y ago
> (except all the garbage ethics, safety crap that didn't help google, probably kneecapped it actually) Yes. Inflection's AI was just too useless and safe to be of any use and ultimately made no money. > This is Satya Nadella's worst AI move yet. We'll see. But I predict that Inflection AI will eventually sunset Pi.
petre 2y ago
"AI ethics" from a person booted based on allegations of coworker bullying?