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Should we regulate to prevent jobs from being replaced? Wouldn't that make us less competitive with countries that aren't willing to artificially cap that? I'm

Should we regulate to prevent jobs from being replaced? Wouldn't that make us less competitive with countries that aren't willing to artificially cap that? I'm not against AI regulation on safety grounds but I'm not convinced it's a good idea to try to use regulation to preserve jobs. That feels like it would have much more damaging longer term consequences.

camgunz 3y ago
> Should we regulate to prevent jobs from being replaced? Not at all what I'm saying. What should they have done? Not trained on code they weren't explicitly licensed to do so, and only given access to workers. The message of companies offering "productivity gains" (or outright replacement: "Hire Devin") to workers is "we're only interested in putting you out of work; how you pay your mortgage and get health care is your concern; call your congressperson". The fact that they're pushing hard to replace workers and flat out stating that their business models are illegal under current copyright law says everything about their offering: hey big business, if we put a carve out in copyright law your SWE headcount goes to zero; call your congressperson. Hence my original--earnest--question: do you all who are working on AI honestly think the government will fix this?
- onel 2y ago
  The government is not this abstract concept, we choose (mostly) what happens there. If enough people complain, or are affected, changes will be made from a legal POV. If enough people lose jobs, yeah a government program might appear to help with that.
  - camgunz 2y ago
    If this were true Roe would still be the law of the land, we'd have meaningful gun control, a path to citizenship for undocumented workers, a stronger response to climate change, etc. etc. This stuff all has > 60% support, but there's practically no hope of it passing. Tells you everything you need to know.

camgunz 3y ago

> Should we regulate to prevent jobs from being replaced? Not at all what I'm saying. What should they have done? Not trained on code they weren't explicitly licensed to do so, and only given access to workers. The message of companies offering "productivity gains" (or outright replacement: "Hire Devin") to workers is "we're only interested in putting you out of work; how you pay your mortgage and get health care is your concern; call your congressperson". The fact that they're pushing hard to replace workers and flat out stating that their business models are illegal under current copyright law says everything about their offering: hey big business, if we put a carve out in copyright law your SWE headcount goes to zero; call your congressperson. Hence my original--earnest--question: do you all who are working on AI honestly think the government will fix this?

onel 2y ago
The government is not this abstract concept, we choose (mostly) what happens there. If enough people complain, or are affected, changes will be made from a legal POV. If enough people lose jobs, yeah a government program might appear to help with that.
- camgunz 2y ago
  If this were true Roe would still be the law of the land, we'd have meaningful gun control, a path to citizenship for undocumented workers, a stronger response to climate change, etc. etc. This stuff all has > 60% support, but there's practically no hope of it passing. Tells you everything you need to know.