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None of those are a problem on a desktop PC only on shitty laptops.

grujicd 3y ago
Do you have experience with modern high watagae CPU during summer? Yes, good cooler can make it work. But where does that heat end up? It gets blown out from the case and first heats your legs (depending on desk, position to wall, etc), and then the entire room. It can be very noticable and not in a good way.
- Unfrozen0688 3y ago
  >Do you have experience with modern high watagae CPU during summer? i7 4790k w noctua cooler is fine :)
  - vladvasiliu 3y ago
    Do you have A/Cin that room? I actually have a similar desktop next to my legs, only it has the Xeon version with twice the cores. It's an absolute PITA in the summer with no A/C. It's also quite noisy when the temperature in the room reaches 27 ºC.
  - szundi 3y ago
    Same cpu, not bothered to replace until maybe these days
- nick__m 3y ago
  I have 2 saved profiles in my bios, one where the cpu is allow to consume has much current as it want that I use from mid October to mid May and one where the CPU is capped at 65W for the rest of the year. I do something similar with my GPU, 75% cap in the summer, 105% cap in the winter.
aurareturn 3y ago
None of those are a problem on a desktop PC only on shitty laptops. My post specifically states the perf per watt advantage on laptops, phones, any small device, servers. I also mentioned this advantage being less on hardcore DIY computers.
- alt227 3y ago
  Do you realise how big the PC gaming sector is these days? High performing desktop chips are not for the hardcore DIY enthusiast market anymore. There are now millions of gamers buying of the shelf PCs with the highest spec components as standard.
  - aurareturn 3y ago
    The reverse of what you said is true. DIY desktop market is smaller than ever. You can see this in the number of discrete GPU sales which has drastically declined over the last 20 years[0] save for a few crypto booms. Gaming laptops are now more popular than gaming desktops.[1] If you disagree, I'd like to see your sources. [0]https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/9hGBfdHQBWtrbYQKAfFZWD-1200-80.png https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/9hGBfdHQBWtrbYQKAfFZWD-120... [1]https://web.archive.org/web/20220628032503/https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS47570121 https://web.archive.org/web/20220628032503/https://www.idc.c...
    - alt227 2y ago
      Lokos like gaming laptop vs gaming desktop sales are roughly the same: "In terms of market share, according to a 2020 report by Statista, Notebooks / laptops accounted for 46.8% of the global personal computer market, while desktop PC made up 40.6% of the market. The remaining market share was made up of other devices such as tablets and workstations." https://www.statista.com/statistics/1119850/gaming-pc-market-shipment-share-worldwide-by-category/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1119850/gaming-pc-market... https://www.tech-bazaar.com/laptop-market-as-compared-to-desktops-globally/ https://www.tech-bazaar.com/laptop-market-as-compared-to-des...

Do you have experience with modern high watagae CPU during summer? Yes, good cooler can make it work. But where does that heat end up? It gets blown out from the case and first heats your legs (depending on desk, position to wall, etc), and then the entire room. It can be very noticable and not in a good way.

Unfrozen0688 3y ago
>Do you have experience with modern high watagae CPU during summer? i7 4790k w noctua cooler is fine :)
- vladvasiliu 3y ago
  Do you have A/Cin that room? I actually have a similar desktop next to my legs, only it has the Xeon version with twice the cores. It's an absolute PITA in the summer with no A/C. It's also quite noisy when the temperature in the room reaches 27 ºC.
- szundi 3y ago
  Same cpu, not bothered to replace until maybe these days
nick__m 3y ago
I have 2 saved profiles in my bios, one where the cpu is allow to consume has much current as it want that I use from mid October to mid May and one where the CPU is capped at 65W for the rest of the year. I do something similar with my GPU, 75% cap in the summer, 105% cap in the winter.

aurareturn 3y ago

None of those are a problem on a desktop PC only on shitty laptops. My post specifically states the perf per watt advantage on laptops, phones, any small device, servers. I also mentioned this advantage being less on hardcore DIY computers.

alt227 3y ago
Do you realise how big the PC gaming sector is these days? High performing desktop chips are not for the hardcore DIY enthusiast market anymore. There are now millions of gamers buying of the shelf PCs with the highest spec components as standard.
- aurareturn 3y ago
  The reverse of what you said is true. DIY desktop market is smaller than ever. You can see this in the number of discrete GPU sales which has drastically declined over the last 20 years[0] save for a few crypto booms. Gaming laptops are now more popular than gaming desktops.[1] If you disagree, I'd like to see your sources. [0]https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/9hGBfdHQBWtrbYQKAfFZWD-1200-80.png https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/9hGBfdHQBWtrbYQKAfFZWD-120... [1]https://web.archive.org/web/20220628032503/https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS47570121 https://web.archive.org/web/20220628032503/https://www.idc.c...
  - alt227 2y ago
    Lokos like gaming laptop vs gaming desktop sales are roughly the same: "In terms of market share, according to a 2020 report by Statista, Notebooks / laptops accounted for 46.8% of the global personal computer market, while desktop PC made up 40.6% of the market. The remaining market share was made up of other devices such as tablets and workstations." https://www.statista.com/statistics/1119850/gaming-pc-market-shipment-share-worldwide-by-category/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1119850/gaming-pc-market... https://www.tech-bazaar.com/laptop-market-as-compared-to-desktops-globally/ https://www.tech-bazaar.com/laptop-market-as-compared-to-des...