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> a shift in their user base towards open source forks I wonder how we can verify this. If I look at HashiCorp's quarterly results,[1] revenue is up, and they
by SloopJon 3y ago
> a shift in their user base towards open source forks
I wonder how we can verify this. If I look at HashiCorp's quarterly results,[1] revenue is up, and they're adding customers, but net dollar retention rate is trending down.
OpenTofu has 3k followers to HashiCorp's 6.9k on Github. The opentofu/opentofu repo has 18.8k stars to 40.9k for hashicorp/terraform. Sentiment on a recent r/TerraForm thread seems decidedly mixed.[2]
Are any of the (edit: other) forks of HashiCorp's viable yet?
[1] https://ir.hashicorp.com/financial-information/quarterly-results https://ir.hashicorp.com/financial-information/quarterly-res...
[2] https://old.reddit.com/r/Terraform/comments/19egjs3/thoughts_on_opentofu/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Terraform/comments/19egjs3/thoughts...
- candiddevmike 3y agoWhat is your definition of viable? I know large F500 orgs using OpenTofu. A lot of orgs that offer services to other orgs within an umbrella org or within a holding company noped out of terraform due to the licensing change.
- SloopJon 3y agoOpenTofu does seem to have reached a stable, usable release. I meant to ask whether any of the other forks are viable. OpenBao, e.g., doesn't seem there yet.
- cipherboy 3y agoPer https://github.com/orgs/openbao/discussions/147#discussioncomment-8535195 https://github.com/orgs/openbao/discussions/147#discussionco... the Alpha is slated for end of the month. No word on GA date yet.
- ckdarby 3y agoRevenue is up because a lot of their contracts will be over a 3-5 year term and they'll recognize the revenue each year of the contract. It'll take 3 to 5 years for the pain to be felt and another 3 to 5 years from that point to collapse because most companies will just pay the renewal to buy time to let the rest of the space mature. Source/bias: I see this happening all the time in the space. I gave a talk about why Terraform is dead and long live Pulumi.
- scapecast 3y agoThis. Pulumi is to Terraform what Figma was to InVision.
- Timshel 3y agoIf you read it as the fork having in 6 months around half the "reach" of the 9 years old Terraform; that's not exactly the best trend for them ...