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that I can appreciate, but to come out and call it "plagiarism" publicly although we couldn't have done more to reference him...is absurd to me. Feels like thi

that I can appreciate, but to come out and call it "plagiarism" publicly although we couldn't have done more to reference him...is absurd to me. Feels like this guy is trolling every single one of us here - myself included - to get a reaction.

scott_s 14y ago
If I say, "This text is from John Doe," and then I proceed to quote John Doe to the point that the majority of my text is, in fact, John Doe's, then I have plagiarized John Doe. In other words, attribution does not save you from plagiarism.
Braasch 14y ago
But that's the thing: you didn't do more, and that's the problem here. I don't see him as a troll. I see him as a guy who posted something he put a lot of effort into and ended up having his work reposted without even being justly credited. He has every right to be upset and share his story, and people deserve to know this. P.S. Just stop with the Tweets, it's embarrassing not only you, but the publication you represent.
shock-value 14y ago
You do not understand plagiarism.
idiot900 14y ago
You copied and pasted the article and changed a few words, then made it look like Harrison Weber wrote the text, even though he did not. The attribution is great but in this case not enough. Either the text should have been created independently, or it should have been made clear that it was a direct quote (fair use) from Gross. You should have learned why this was wrong in high school.
praptak 14y ago
> we couldn't have done more to reference him Obviously you could have done more: reference him right from the start, not only after he made a stink about you copy-pasting his material verbatim. Timing matters, earlier is more. This is unless he's lying that you did it only after the fact. Care to explain this point? Edit: I see you already did elsewhere in this tread.
kprobst 14y ago
The fact that this guy may be wrong does not justify brutally downvoting his comments until they are nearly invisible. That detracts enormously from the discussion and makes HN look like vindictive children.
joering2 14y ago
I cannot believe how stupid this guy is!! is he for real?? does anyone know his history at RWW? How did he get there?
rhizome 14y ago
I guess they don't teach this in the CEO school you went to, but it's not about crediting him more, it's about stealing from him less. There's a difference.
chris_wot 14y ago
Way to go with the ad hominem attack! As has by now been pointed out many, many times, your plagiarism, subsequent tweets and then coverup aren't acceptable.
skore 14y ago
> Feels like this guy is trolling every single one of us here - myself included - to get a reaction. Wow, just wow. This just crossed the bullshit horizon.

scott_s 14y ago

If I say, "This text is from John Doe," and then I proceed to quote John Doe to the point that the majority of my text is, in fact, John Doe's, then I have plagiarized John Doe. In other words, attribution does not save you from plagiarism.

Braasch 14y ago

But that's the thing: you didn't do more, and that's the problem here. I don't see him as a troll. I see him as a guy who posted something he put a lot of effort into and ended up having his work reposted without even being justly credited. He has every right to be upset and share his story, and people deserve to know this. P.S. Just stop with the Tweets, it's embarrassing not only you, but the publication you represent.

shock-value 14y ago

You do not understand plagiarism.

idiot900 14y ago

You copied and pasted the article and changed a few words, then made it look like Harrison Weber wrote the text, even though he did not. The attribution is great but in this case not enough. Either the text should have been created independently, or it should have been made clear that it was a direct quote (fair use) from Gross. You should have learned why this was wrong in high school.

praptak 14y ago

> we couldn't have done more to reference him Obviously you could have done more: reference him right from the start, not only after he made a stink about you copy-pasting his material verbatim. Timing matters, earlier is more. This is unless he's lying that you did it only after the fact. Care to explain this point? Edit: I see you already did elsewhere in this tread.

kprobst 14y ago

The fact that this guy may be wrong does not justify brutally downvoting his comments until they are nearly invisible. That detracts enormously from the discussion and makes HN look like vindictive children.

joering2 14y ago

I cannot believe how stupid this guy is!! is he for real?? does anyone know his history at RWW? How did he get there?

rhizome 14y ago

I guess they don't teach this in the CEO school you went to, but it's not about crediting him more, it's about stealing from him less. There's a difference.

chris_wot 14y ago

Way to go with the ad hominem attack! As has by now been pointed out many, many times, your plagiarism, subsequent tweets and then coverup aren't acceptable.

skore 14y ago

> Feels like this guy is trolling every single one of us here - myself included - to get a reaction. Wow, just wow. This just crossed the bullshit horizon.