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It's not a best practice, it's a fad. 99% of people who recommend or use Postgres barely know how to use it. Another trendy database will come along and you'll

It's not a best practice, it's a fad. 99% of people who recommend or use Postgres barely know how to use it. Another trendy database will come along and you'll stop seeing all these posts about it. Happens every decade. I'll link back to this post in a few years with "I told you so".

renegade-otter 3y ago
It’s been 40 years for Postgres. A database is not some trendy ReactJS library.
- deleted 3y ago
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- docc 3y ago
  Correct, but a lot of pieple treat it that way.
coldtea 3y ago
You're off by 30 years already...
dagw 3y ago
Another trendy database will come along and you'll stop seeing all these posts about it. Happens every decade. And then after a couple of years people will realise that Postgres can do everything the trendy database can do and come back to Postgres. Happens every decade. This is at least 'hype cycle' 3 for Postgres since I started my career.
sgarland 3y ago
> 99% of people who recommend or use Postgres barely know how to use it. You're not wrong here, although you could just as easily say "99% of people who recommend $DB barely know how to use it." Databases remain a mysterious black box to entirely too many people, despite the three largest (SQLite, Postgres, MySQL) being open source, and having extensive documentation. I've come to the conclusion that most devs don't care about infra in the slightest, and view a DB as a place to stick data. When it stops working like they want, they shrug and upsize the instance. This is infuriating to me, because it's the equivalent of me pushing a PR to implement bogosort, and when told that it's suboptimal, dismissing the criticism and arguing that infra just needs to allocate more cores.
- renegade-otter 3y ago
  I feel this on a soul level. I wrote about it: https://renegadeotter.com/2023/11/12/your-database-skills-are-not-good-to-have.html https://renegadeotter.com/2023/11/12/your-database-skills-ar...
  - dzonga 3y ago
    that was a profound article. thanks
  - sgarland 3y ago
    My god, are you me? I also thoroughly enjoyed this diatribe from [0]: > First, a whole army of developers writing JavaScript for the browser started self-identifying as “full-stack”, diving into server development and asynchronous code. > ...early JavaScript was a deeply problematic choice for server development. Pointing this out to still green server-side developers usually resulted in a lot of huffing and puffing. [0]: https://renegadeotter.com/2023/09/10/death-by-a-thousand-microservices.html https://renegadeotter.com/2023/09/10/death-by-a-thousand-mic...

renegade-otter 3y ago

It’s been 40 years for Postgres. A database is not some trendy ReactJS library.

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docc 3y ago
Correct, but a lot of pieple treat it that way.

coldtea 3y ago

You're off by 30 years already...

dagw 3y ago

Another trendy database will come along and you'll stop seeing all these posts about it. Happens every decade. And then after a couple of years people will realise that Postgres can do everything the trendy database can do and come back to Postgres. Happens every decade. This is at least 'hype cycle' 3 for Postgres since I started my career.

sgarland 3y ago

> 99% of people who recommend or use Postgres barely know how to use it. You're not wrong here, although you could just as easily say "99% of people who recommend $DB barely know how to use it." Databases remain a mysterious black box to entirely too many people, despite the three largest (SQLite, Postgres, MySQL) being open source, and having extensive documentation. I've come to the conclusion that most devs don't care about infra in the slightest, and view a DB as a place to stick data. When it stops working like they want, they shrug and upsize the instance. This is infuriating to me, because it's the equivalent of me pushing a PR to implement bogosort, and when told that it's suboptimal, dismissing the criticism and arguing that infra just needs to allocate more cores.

renegade-otter 3y ago
I feel this on a soul level. I wrote about it: https://renegadeotter.com/2023/11/12/your-database-skills-are-not-good-to-have.html https://renegadeotter.com/2023/11/12/your-database-skills-ar...
- dzonga 3y ago
  that was a profound article. thanks
- sgarland 3y ago
  My god, are you me? I also thoroughly enjoyed this diatribe from [0]: > First, a whole army of developers writing JavaScript for the browser started self-identifying as “full-stack”, diving into server development and asynchronous code. > ...early JavaScript was a deeply problematic choice for server development. Pointing this out to still green server-side developers usually resulted in a lot of huffing and puffing. [0]: https://renegadeotter.com/2023/09/10/death-by-a-thousand-microservices.html https://renegadeotter.com/2023/09/10/death-by-a-thousand-mic...