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Just speculating here but isn’t jumping out a window in Russia usually an implication it was ordered by the Russian state (ex: FSB) while in the US a framed sui
by wordhydrogen 3y ago
Just speculating here but isn’t jumping out a window in Russia usually an implication it was ordered by the Russian state (ex: FSB) while in the US a framed suicides are assumed to be done by numerous non-associated actors. So in one place a single entity is responsible and in another it’s multiple entities.
It doesn’t seem surprising to me that there would be an affinity towards a particular method within entities.
- dijit 3y agothat's what the parent is saying.
- lostlogin 3y ago> jumping out a window Or a poisoning with a ludicrously rare poison, a strange car crash, a plane falling out the sky, dying at a gulag when you were fine a few days earlier etc etc. It’s a very unsafe place when you don’t toe the line.
- card_zero 3y agoTechnically I don't think Navalny was fine a few days earlier, I understood that he had ongoing poor health due to, uh, being previously poisoned.
- tim333 3y agoHere's video of him the day before looking not exactly on deaths door https://youtu.be/pUwOYeei5MU https://youtu.be/pUwOYeei5MU
- pydry 3y ago>It’s a very unsafe place when you don’t toe the line. Very much like America, apparently. The part where plenty of people express skepticism that theses death were really suspicious seems to be similar too.
- whacko_quacko 3y ago> Very much like America, apparently. No. America isn't in the habit of regularily murdering dissidents
- lostlogin 3y agoIs anyone refuting this? It’s hardly a wild claim.
- whacko_quacko 3y agoDid you read the parent?
- pydry 3y agoDid you read the title of this thread?
- lostlogin 3y agoA convenient death for Boeing/USA versus a century of documented political assassinations. Russia’s state killings are vast, millions? The two are not equal.
- pydry 3y ago>Russia’s state killings are vast, millions? If you go far enough back in time, sure. Then again, if you go far enough back in time (not that long, truth be told), the US committed genocide against the Native Americans.
- mopsi 3y agoIs 30 minutes far enough? https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-missile-attack-kills-two-ukraines-odesa-governor-says-2024-03-15/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-missile-attack-... Russian ballistic missiles just hit residential area in Odessa, killing at least 16 and injuring 70. It was a double-tap attack. The second missile hit the same place 15 minutes later to kill first responders that had arrived: one paramedic and one firefighter died on the scene.
- thaumasiotes 3y ago> a plane falling out the sky > It’s a very unsafe place when you don’t toe the line. This one seems less like "it's a very unsafe place" and more like Prigozhin was trying to be killed. He went into open armed rebellion and negotiated a deal where he was exiled to Belarus. Then he went back to Russia, where he experienced a fatal plane crash. He would have to have been a total idiot not to see that coming.† What happened? † My favorite story in this general vein is what happened with the Mitanni king Tushratta, whose brother the king was killed by a usurper when Tushratta was young. Tushratta inherited the throne, and the usurper, Tuhi, held power as regent until Tushratta came of age. At which point Tushratta had Tuhi and his coconspirators executed. This was 3400 years ago, but somehow I suspect that even then this wouldn't have been hard to predict.
- lostlogin 3y ago> He would have to have been a total idiot not to see that coming The confusing bit for me is why did it go on for so long? It’s one thing to kill him, but seemingly letting him back into Putin’s circle before killing him is surprising. I hope to hear the story one day.