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You could take the word fuck out of the original comment and it would still have the clear reasoning that Gordon Price as a white person should not be telling a

You could take the word fuck out of the original comment and it would still have the clear reasoning that Gordon Price as a white person should not be telling an indigenous group that what they want to do is not the "Indigenous way". White person should not define "Indigenous way". How else can we misinterpret this argument?

coldtea 3y ago
>White person should not define "Indigenous way" Any person, white, black, asian, whatever, can however assess whether this development is in line with the indigenous tradition or something that might distort or endanger it. Or do you think the same discussion doensn't happen within the indigenous community as well?
- BehindBlueEyes 2y ago
  Most outsiders lack the understanding of what indigenous way of life entails beyond stereotypes, and are therefor poor judges. Besides, indigenous culture has been distorted and endangered by oppresssion, the least we can do as outsiders is let them reclaim and rebuilt their traditions how they want it.
- badcppdev 3y ago
  "indigenous tradition or something that might distort or endanger" Are certain groups not allowed to change? Why use the word distort or endanger? We aren't talking about the discussions inside the community. We are talking about people outside the community applying judgements to their decisions and actions.
  - coldtea 3y ago
    >Are certain groups not allowed to change? Did I say that? >Why use the word distort or endanger? Because obviously some change can be distorting and/or endagering some things? The fact that an individual or group is allowed to change doesn't mean each particular change is always for the better. >We are talking about people outside the community applying judgements to their decisions and actions. Yes, so? Do you think groups should only get judgements to their decisions and actions from within themselves?
- itishappy 3y ago
  Why is tradition relevant here? The indigenous community is a present day community, not a historical preservation society. I disagree that we're all equal when it comes to defining what is and isn't "indigenous way."

coldtea 3y ago

>White person should not define "Indigenous way" Any person, white, black, asian, whatever, can however assess whether this development is in line with the indigenous tradition or something that might distort or endanger it. Or do you think the same discussion doensn't happen within the indigenous community as well?

BehindBlueEyes 2y ago
Most outsiders lack the understanding of what indigenous way of life entails beyond stereotypes, and are therefor poor judges. Besides, indigenous culture has been distorted and endangered by oppresssion, the least we can do as outsiders is let them reclaim and rebuilt their traditions how they want it.
badcppdev 3y ago
"indigenous tradition or something that might distort or endanger" Are certain groups not allowed to change? Why use the word distort or endanger? We aren't talking about the discussions inside the community. We are talking about people outside the community applying judgements to their decisions and actions.
- coldtea 3y ago
  >Are certain groups not allowed to change? Did I say that? >Why use the word distort or endanger? Because obviously some change can be distorting and/or endagering some things? The fact that an individual or group is allowed to change doesn't mean each particular change is always for the better. >We are talking about people outside the community applying judgements to their decisions and actions. Yes, so? Do you think groups should only get judgements to their decisions and actions from within themselves?
itishappy 3y ago
Why is tradition relevant here? The indigenous community is a present day community, not a historical preservation society. I disagree that we're all equal when it comes to defining what is and isn't "indigenous way."