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That's also solveable. For android you need to enable deep inside of the settings to allow 3rd party installs. Nobody is preventing Apple to do something like t

That's also solveable. For android you need to enable deep inside of the settings to allow 3rd party installs. Nobody is preventing Apple to do something like this. Or that you can create a profile that disables that setting that you can install on your familys devices. Nothing in the DMA prevents this. Just because it makes your life easier as the family tech support is a pretty selfish reason to hope for a very good pro-consumer law to fail.

frizlab 3y ago
The way it’s going I’m actually pretty sure if they did that they’d get reprimanded… Also it makes my life annoying when I open Safari and am presented w/ what can be told as the worst pop-up ever and have to spend literally minutes dismissing it for something I neither wanted nor needed. It’s the cookie banner all over again. Does not seem like a lot, but as a developer I use devices in a factory configuration a lot, and it’s just as annoying as it’s useless. Basically it’s the cookie banner again. Served no-one (at least definitely not the consumers), but annoyed a lot. As for the “those that want to use their 1000€ device differently than you now have the chance to,” well……… nobody forced them to buy a 1000€ device did they?? They knew of the limitations; they had to, or they’re very dumb. The law is not pro-consumer contrary to people say, it’s anti-garden, which is definitely not the same, and I’ll die on this hill.
- _v7gu 3y ago
  > Basically it’s the cookie banner again. Served no-one (at least definitely not the consumers), but annoyed a lot. Oh no, you have to be given the option to not permit your data to be shared with ~1000 different partners with "legitimate" interests. Honestly, the only thing that is wrong with GDPR is that it came out too late.
  - frizlab 3y ago
    90% of the websites today use google analytics which is not GDPR compliant, and yet nothing happens. Ironically Apple did more for privacy than GDPR ever did, and was able to enforce it… by having a walled garden!
    - latexr 3y ago
      > and yet nothing happens. Not true. https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-win-first-major-fine-eu-1-million-using-google-analytics https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-win-first-major-fine-eu-1-million-us...
    - isodev 3y ago
      > yet nothing happens Every time you dismiss a "we care for your privacy" banner, you're being made aware that your data is shared with hundreds or thousands of data brokers with "legitimate interest". The fact that vendors prefer to make your experience miserable rather than give up tracking is another example of "malicious compliance". What happens is that you now have the right to request a copy of the personal information a site has collected and ask them to delete it. You can also sue them if they don't fulfil your request. You're welcome to exercise your rights as an EU citizen at any time.
- user_7832 3y ago
  > Also it makes my life annoying when I open Safari and am presented w/ what can be told as the worst pop-up ever and have to spend literally minutes dismissing it for something I neither wanted nor needed. It’s the cookie banner all over again. Know what's cool? Firefox on android supports ublock origin. There are some chromium forks too with desktop extension support (on android). Funny what an open(er) market and easy of installing apps does, huh?
  - frizlab 3y ago
    I have ads and pop up blockers already? What are you on about??
- ghusto 3y ago
  Nearly no sites comply with the cookie-banner law, if they did, you wouldn't mind it. It essentially says "Tell the user you're tracking them, give them a button to click not allow you to do that". If sites actually did that, I honestly couldn't care less about the extra second it would take to click "No, fuck off".

frizlab 3y ago

The way it’s going I’m actually pretty sure if they did that they’d get reprimanded… Also it makes my life annoying when I open Safari and am presented w/ what can be told as the worst pop-up ever and have to spend literally minutes dismissing it for something I neither wanted nor needed. It’s the cookie banner all over again. Does not seem like a lot, but as a developer I use devices in a factory configuration a lot, and it’s just as annoying as it’s useless. Basically it’s the cookie banner again. Served no-one (at least definitely not the consumers), but annoyed a lot. As for the “those that want to use their 1000€ device differently than you now have the chance to,” well……… nobody forced them to buy a 1000€ device did they?? They knew of the limitations; they had to, or they’re very dumb. The law is not pro-consumer contrary to people say, it’s anti-garden, which is definitely not the same, and I’ll die on this hill.

_v7gu 3y ago
> Basically it’s the cookie banner again. Served no-one (at least definitely not the consumers), but annoyed a lot. Oh no, you have to be given the option to not permit your data to be shared with ~1000 different partners with "legitimate" interests. Honestly, the only thing that is wrong with GDPR is that it came out too late.
- frizlab 3y ago
  90% of the websites today use google analytics which is not GDPR compliant, and yet nothing happens. Ironically Apple did more for privacy than GDPR ever did, and was able to enforce it… by having a walled garden!
  - latexr 3y ago
    > and yet nothing happens. Not true. https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-win-first-major-fine-eu-1-million-using-google-analytics https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-win-first-major-fine-eu-1-million-us...
  - isodev 3y ago
    > yet nothing happens Every time you dismiss a "we care for your privacy" banner, you're being made aware that your data is shared with hundreds or thousands of data brokers with "legitimate interest". The fact that vendors prefer to make your experience miserable rather than give up tracking is another example of "malicious compliance". What happens is that you now have the right to request a copy of the personal information a site has collected and ask them to delete it. You can also sue them if they don't fulfil your request. You're welcome to exercise your rights as an EU citizen at any time.
user_7832 3y ago
> Also it makes my life annoying when I open Safari and am presented w/ what can be told as the worst pop-up ever and have to spend literally minutes dismissing it for something I neither wanted nor needed. It’s the cookie banner all over again. Know what's cool? Firefox on android supports ublock origin. There are some chromium forks too with desktop extension support (on android). Funny what an open(er) market and easy of installing apps does, huh?
- frizlab 3y ago
  I have ads and pop up blockers already? What are you on about??
ghusto 3y ago
Nearly no sites comply with the cookie-banner law, if they did, you wouldn't mind it. It essentially says "Tell the user you're tracking them, give them a button to click not allow you to do that". If sites actually did that, I honestly couldn't care less about the extra second it would take to click "No, fuck off".