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The west lost? When did that happen?
by vkreso 3y ago
The west lost? When did that happen?
- avmich 3y agoYou won't prove it to those who don't want the proof. Just clean up the place and build what's needed, let those who "know better" to keep claiming they're the masters of the universe.
- slowturtle 3y agoThe war's been at a stalemate for over a year with Ukraine having lost control of its eastern provinces in spite of receiving hundreds of billions of dollars in aid from "the West". Sounds like a loss to me, regardless of one's personal feelings.
- viraptor 3y agoStalemate is not loss. Kyiv still standing is not loss. The loss could've been way worse months ago. Both sides are still planning action. "Lost" is disrespectful to people on the ground still fighting and risking lives every day.
- baybal2 3y ago[dead]
- ilkke 3y agoTrue, but let's not forget that the US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin declared the US goal in Ukraine is to 'weaken Russia'. Puts a different perspective on what winning means.