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Mysteriously not on the front page.
by beeboobaa 3y ago
Mysteriously not on the front page.
- lapcat 3y agoThat is indeed strange.
- testfrequency 3y agoI was going to start an Ask HN post on this very thing just this morning, so instead I’ll just reply here. The last few weeks, HN seems to be suppressing Apple headlines. They will be on the front page, but then drop off minutes later - despite being fresh, growing in votes and engagement, and being high quality articles. Meanwhile, positive headlines about OpenAI will be up for hours… Also, don’t blame the mod tools. This should be fixed, that’s not normal
- JumpCrisscross 3y agoI didn’t flag this one, but a lot of the debates wind up with pro-Apple/anti-Apple generalities. Which isn’t interesting. Even in this thread, it’s mostly people expressing outrage and disgust or reflexive dismissal; few actual thoughts.
- dang 3y agoThank you for not posting an off-topic Ask HN. As the site guidelines ask, you should email hn@ycombinator.com if you want to ask or tell us something (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html). There's no special treatment of Apple stories or any other $BigCo stories on HN; the dominant variable is simply random fluctuation. If you're seeing otherwise, it's almost certainly because random fluctuation provides a rich set of datapoints to confirm whatever perception you're inclined towards. Mostly we're all primed to notice, and weight more heavily, the things we dislike. (Endless past explanations about this here, for anyone who cares: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20notice%20dislike&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...). For example, if you dislike $BigCo then it will seem like negative stories about $BigCo are being suppressed. Indeed there are tons of examples of such stories not staying on the frontpage—but there are also tons of examples of exactly the opposite. How one weights these is a function of one's own perception, which is governed by what one likes and dislikes. People who like $BigCo are just as convinced that HN is biased against $BigCo, and find just as many datapoints to support it, and post just as many complaints about it. These dynamics are as old as the hills and impossible to stop. All we can do is answer specific questions when we happen to see them. I only saw this one randomly; in the future, please use the reliable mechanism (hn@ycombinator.com) to get your question answered. It's not as if any of this is secret!
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- op00to 3y agoIt’s not mysterious. Every time this happens it’s because the thread triggered a flame war filter.
- sillysaurusx 3y agoThat’s not true. A story can disappear from the front page for a variety of reasons, including user flags and manual moderator intervention. There’s no reason to suspect this particular story triggered the flamewar detector.
- kayodelycaon 3y agoThe number of comments exceeds that number of votes. IIRC, that's one of the factors in the flamewar detector.
- sillysaurusx 3y agoYou’re right, but they didn’t at the time.