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It's about Russian security, not Putin's vanity. Please try to raise the level of discourse beyond the boogyman propaganda so beloved of Hollywood. This is se
by argentier 3y ago
It's about Russian security, not Putin's vanity. Please try to raise the level of discourse beyond the boogyman propaganda so beloved of Hollywood.
This is serious, deadly serious, and seeing it treated so lightly is painful.
- peutetre 3y agoEverything Putin is doing is worsening Russia's security situation. As a direct result of Russia's war, NATO has expanded and Russia is now very much in China's pocket. China is quite happy to have Russia as a vassal state. Russia had a mini civil war with Prigozhin's rebellion. Russians have been killing Russians. Russia's life expectancy was already lower than that of developed countries and this pointless war of choice is steadily killing off an entire generation of young Russians.
- type0 3y agoI'm hearing Russians will feel secure when they conquer all the former USSR territory > boogyman propaganda so beloved of Hollywood. not hollywood, they say it on Russian state tv, if you take your head out of your arse and manage to watch and listen you'll see it loud and clearly
- tim333 3y agoWhen the USSR held the USSRs territory they still seemed to feel insecure enough to attack the neighbours.
- tim333 3y agoOh BS it's security. Like they are threatened by a small peacefull country next door with a comedian elected as president to join the EU, when they have the largest nuclear arsenal in the world and a dictator skilled in mass murder. >Western historians have calculated that, over the last 400 years of its existence, the Russian Empire expanded at an average rate of 50 square kilometers per day. (https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2014/09/10/putins-nationalism-and-expansion-strategy-is-doomed-to-fail-a39268 https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2014/09/10/putins-nationalism...) Could it instead just be that they are just doing what they have habitually done?
- argentier 3y agoThe Russians were, as they made clear on multiple occasions, threatened by NATO moving into Ukraine and potentially placing missiles close to the Russian heartland.
- mopsi 3y agoThe only ones installing missiles anywhere are Russians, most recently moving nuclear missiles into an unstable dictatorship in Belarus, right on EU and NATO border.
- tim333 3y agoThey lie constantly. Just some excusese to take their empire back.
- peutetre 3y agoSo Putin's solution to this apparent dilemma was to start a war that has directly resulted in the expansion NATO? If NATO was a problem before then surely a bigger NATO is a bigger problem. It sounds like Putin doesn't care much about Russia's security and he's only making things worse.
- Wytwwww 3y agoWhy would NATO want to antagonize or threaten Russia directly? That's a serious question because neither the US nor Western Europe had any desire to start any direct or indirect conflict with Russia since 1991.. > missiles close to the Russian heartland. Any factual evidence? In any case you do realize there are Russian missiles in Kaliningrad so following the same logic you would agree that Poland/Germany/Sweden etc. have a legitimate right to invade it to demilitarize and "denazify" it (in this case of course for real because Russia at this point is literally a fascist state, it ticks all the boxes after all) following the same "logic"?
- Wytwwww 3y ago> It's about Russian security It's not 1939 (as if their invasion of Poland was justifiable or is that not what you're claiming?). Nobody has been threatening Russian security for decades. Even back in the cold war does there were no serious plans to invade Russia itself. > Please try to raise the level of discourse beyond the boogyman That's sounds rather absurd... You're the one who's using propaganda bullet points like "It's about Russian security"?
- boffinAudio 3y ago[flagged]