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Naftali Bennett (former Israeli premier): https://www.hungarianconservative.com/articles/current/russia_ukraine-peace_blocked_western_powers_naftali_bennett_med

Naftali Bennett (former Israeli premier): https://www.hungarianconservative.com/articles/current/russia_ukraine-peace_blocked_western_powers_naftali_bennett_mediationraeli-prime-minister-claims/ https://www.hungarianconservative.com/articles/current/russi... Watch the interview if you don't like the source. Ukrainian negotiator David Arahamiya: https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/official-johnson-forced-kyiv-to-refuse-russian-peace-deal/ https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/official-john... Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lt4E0DiJts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lt4E0DiJts More than snippets

khokhol 3y ago
That's the spin of those two observers. But there was a lot to more to the actual chain of events at the time. And lo and behold, the fact of two guys stating a certain narrative about those events (then embellished up a bit by the publications quoting them) does not make it so. Even the article you're citing about Arahamiya's version of events isn't so clear-cut about the matter (it says Boris's advice was but one factor among many) as you're making it out to be.
mopsi 3y ago
Every link of yours is a well-known spin. For example, Bennett has clarified that his words have been taken out of context and misrepresented, and Arahamiya has said that no-one on Ukrainian side belived that Russian peace plan was genuine and not a stalling tactic. Perhaps it would be a good idea to switch to sites that don't have "conservative" in their URL.
- argentier 3y ago
  "Clarified" -- yes he walked it back under intense pressure. His words were in a long podcast you can listen to.
  - Wytwwww 3y ago
    Why would anyone want to listen to some nutjob propaganda podcast? Especially when it's long?
  - mopsi 3y ago
    No, he said that his words were taken out of context and he never meant the things people like you try to attribute to him.

khokhol 3y ago

That's the spin of those two observers. But there was a lot to more to the actual chain of events at the time. And lo and behold, the fact of two guys stating a certain narrative about those events (then embellished up a bit by the publications quoting them) does not make it so. Even the article you're citing about Arahamiya's version of events isn't so clear-cut about the matter (it says Boris's advice was but one factor among many) as you're making it out to be.

mopsi 3y ago

Every link of yours is a well-known spin. For example, Bennett has clarified that his words have been taken out of context and misrepresented, and Arahamiya has said that no-one on Ukrainian side belived that Russian peace plan was genuine and not a stalling tactic. Perhaps it would be a good idea to switch to sites that don't have "conservative" in their URL.

argentier 3y ago
"Clarified" -- yes he walked it back under intense pressure. His words were in a long podcast you can listen to.
- Wytwwww 3y ago
  Why would anyone want to listen to some nutjob propaganda podcast? Especially when it's long?
- mopsi 3y ago
  No, he said that his words were taken out of context and he never meant the things people like you try to attribute to him.