6 ms·

I’m sure Apple would if the could. They obviously can’t, though. I can’t imagine that Google would allow them to implement those features. So Google is the hold

by hej 14y ago

I’m sure Apple would if the could. They obviously can’t, though. I can’t imagine that Google would allow them to implement those features. So Google is the holdup. Apple uses Google’s API and is completely dependent on them in what they can do. (Hey, that’s their right. No problem with that. You don’t have to allow your competitor everything.) That is exactly the reason why Apple has to do it on their own. It might be worse than Google Maps (at least in the beginning or forever), but at least it will allow for progress.

chrisrhoden 14y ago
Google has made it very clear that they want to build Google Maps for iOS and provide the same experience as is available on Android. It was, for a long time, an explicit no-no to provide turn-by-turn navigation in an iOS app.
- Karunamon 14y ago
  There's no excuse now, though. A top ten app on the store is MotionX Drive, there are even apps by Navigon and TomTom out there too. Google could come along and eat all of their collective lunches if they'd just do it.
  - chrisrhoden 14y ago
    No, they still can't because it reproduces functionality of the OS. They could provide just navigation, but if they ported the Google Maps app to iOS, it's very likely that it will be rejected for the same reason that a port of Chrome would.
    - hej 14y ago
      Uhm, it’s Google that doesn’t allow turn-by-turn navigation, not Apple. I bet Apple would be delighted if they could.
    - sirn 14y ago
      Port of Chrome would be rejected for completely different reason: Apple disallows downloading and executing dynamic code from internet unless they're executed by Safari's JavaScript engine. This is not the case with Map. There's already a lot of GPS apps with different map data than the one in Maps app.
    - Karunamon 14y ago
      Not true, as the other apps already have a very, very similar mapping function (MotionX especially, if you don't spring for the turn-by-turn option)
- hej 14y ago
  Can Apple do it in their own app? That’s the relevant question. Third party apps are irrelevant. Google doesn’t allow third party developers (and that includes Apple, obviously) to offer turn-by-turn navigation. Here are the terms (10.2 c): https://developers.google.com/maps/terms https://developers.google.com/maps/terms Letting Google build the maps app is obviously out of the question. That’s a pretty ridiculous idea. Would Google let Apple build a critical piece of Android? Obviously not. (Also, where has Google made that clear? That’s a serious question. I’m not aware of any such statements from Google, so it would be awesome if you could point me in their direction.)

by hej 14y ago

chrisrhoden 14y ago

Google has made it very clear that they want to build Google Maps for iOS and provide the same experience as is available on Android. It was, for a long time, an explicit no-no to provide turn-by-turn navigation in an iOS app.

Karunamon 14y ago
There's no excuse now, though. A top ten app on the store is MotionX Drive, there are even apps by Navigon and TomTom out there too. Google could come along and eat all of their collective lunches if they'd just do it.
- chrisrhoden 14y ago
  No, they still can't because it reproduces functionality of the OS. They could provide just navigation, but if they ported the Google Maps app to iOS, it's very likely that it will be rejected for the same reason that a port of Chrome would.
  - hej 14y ago
    Uhm, it’s Google that doesn’t allow turn-by-turn navigation, not Apple. I bet Apple would be delighted if they could.
  - sirn 14y ago
    Port of Chrome would be rejected for completely different reason: Apple disallows downloading and executing dynamic code from internet unless they're executed by Safari's JavaScript engine. This is not the case with Map. There's already a lot of GPS apps with different map data than the one in Maps app.
  - Karunamon 14y ago
    Not true, as the other apps already have a very, very similar mapping function (MotionX especially, if you don't spring for the turn-by-turn option)
hej 14y ago
Can Apple do it in their own app? That’s the relevant question. Third party apps are irrelevant. Google doesn’t allow third party developers (and that includes Apple, obviously) to offer turn-by-turn navigation. Here are the terms (10.2 c): https://developers.google.com/maps/terms https://developers.google.com/maps/terms Letting Google build the maps app is obviously out of the question. That’s a pretty ridiculous idea. Would Google let Apple build a critical piece of Android? Obviously not. (Also, where has Google made that clear? That’s a serious question. I’m not aware of any such statements from Google, so it would be awesome if you could point me in their direction.)