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Isn't $79k somewhat offensive for a software engineer? At a time when new college grads are making well over $150k their first year?

mehulkar 14y ago
Seriously? Entry level devs make $150k?
- purewater 14y ago
  Yes, ask any Facebook/Google new grad. Standard offer is $100k base salary + $15k bonus + $30k stock a year + $XXk signing bonus.
  - ttfntatafornow 14y ago
    Thats after 4 years of education at a top school. This was free, and only lasted 10 weeks. In 4 years they will probably get at least 150k
  - joejohnson 14y ago
    You are correct, but the average is closer to $80k with all the smaller companies.
  - mehulkar 14y ago
    Median entry level salary for SOMA area is around $68k. Not sure if comparing to the Facebook/Google entry level is the best comparison to draw.
  - jquery 14y ago
    > Yes, ask any Facebook/Google new grad. What percent of new grads work at Facebook/Google, do you reckon?
endlessvoid94 14y ago
...in 10 weeks. Not years.
patio11 14y ago
One assumes there is a tacit acknowledgement being made that the "product" here is not a 100% substitute for, I don't know, a 2350 SAT Stanford undergrad who has been programming since the age of 6. That may or may not be rational discounting. On the plus side: someone who is both a) a productive engineer and b) not as abominably terrible at negotiating as the typical engineer will, two years out of this program, be able to lateral into an intermediate engineer position at their next company for a compensation package worth north of $150k. (P.S. Folks who think purewater or I are grossly off the mark for current conditions in Silicon Valley may wish to take a few people on coffee dates. What you learn will buy an awful lot of lattes.)
snow_mac 14y ago
Where can I find these $150k jobs? I graduate next year.
- dpritchett 14y ago
  It may already be too late. The folks snapping up these jobs have top-tier CS degrees, move to the valley, and most importantly have 2+ internships at major internet companies (Amazon, Google, FB, MS, etc.). You may be able to sidestep some of that if you publish some amazing products or OSS in the next 12 months.

mehulkar 14y ago

Seriously? Entry level devs make $150k?

purewater 14y ago
Yes, ask any Facebook/Google new grad. Standard offer is $100k base salary + $15k bonus + $30k stock a year + $XXk signing bonus.
- ttfntatafornow 14y ago
  Thats after 4 years of education at a top school. This was free, and only lasted 10 weeks. In 4 years they will probably get at least 150k
- joejohnson 14y ago
  You are correct, but the average is closer to $80k with all the smaller companies.
- mehulkar 14y ago
  Median entry level salary for SOMA area is around $68k. Not sure if comparing to the Facebook/Google entry level is the best comparison to draw.
- jquery 14y ago
  > Yes, ask any Facebook/Google new grad. What percent of new grads work at Facebook/Google, do you reckon?

endlessvoid94 14y ago

...in 10 weeks. Not years.

patio11 14y ago

One assumes there is a tacit acknowledgement being made that the "product" here is not a 100% substitute for, I don't know, a 2350 SAT Stanford undergrad who has been programming since the age of 6. That may or may not be rational discounting. On the plus side: someone who is both a) a productive engineer and b) not as abominably terrible at negotiating as the typical engineer will, two years out of this program, be able to lateral into an intermediate engineer position at their next company for a compensation package worth north of $150k. (P.S. Folks who think purewater or I are grossly off the mark for current conditions in Silicon Valley may wish to take a few people on coffee dates. What you learn will buy an awful lot of lattes.)

snow_mac 14y ago

Where can I find these $150k jobs? I graduate next year.

dpritchett 14y ago
It may already be too late. The folks snapping up these jobs have top-tier CS degrees, move to the valley, and most importantly have 2+ internships at major internet companies (Amazon, Google, FB, MS, etc.). You may be able to sidestep some of that if you publish some amazing products or OSS in the next 12 months.