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What's bad about the sticky property?

by alacritas0 3y ago

throwawa14223 3y ago
I want a dumb document. I don't want the thing where the header gets in the way of my clicking as I scroll.
- djbusby 3y ago
  If we get OPs dream, it wouldn't.
- verticalscaler 3y ago
  I understand the sentiment but at some point you're asking for the underlying CSV file. In my opinion a little gear icon which lets you toggle sticky headers and other formatting options and downloadable data as plain text is ideal but good luck standardizing such things.
- nikisweeting 3y ago
  Same, I can't stand sticky headers, especially on anything involving longform text content. They also make web archiving significantly harder as scrolled screenshots cant be easily stitched together anymore to get the whole page.
  - zaik 3y ago
    Don't archive the web by taking screenshots?
    - alpaca128 3y ago
      What other way is as convenient and available but better? Printing as PDF doesn't save the content exactly as it's shown in the browser and a plugin I used for a while in the past was pretty unreliable. Screenshots work on any device with a modern browser and usually I don't want to capture the entire page anyway but just specific interesting parts.
      - palmtree3000 3y ago
        Firefox can screenshot the entire page: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/take-screenshots-firefox#w_what-types-of-screenshots-can-i-capture https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/take-screenshots-firefo...
        alpaca128 3y ago
        Thanks for the tip. Also I completely forgot you can screenshot specific HTML elements in the Inspect panel with a right-click and "screenshot node".
        alpaca128 3y ago
        Late Edit: unfortunately Firefox' screenshot feature seems to have a maximum size, beyond which it just silently truncates the output.
- alpaca128 3y ago
  > the header gets in the way of my clicking as I scroll Sounds like your problem are not sticky headers but the "smart" semi-sticky ones that hide or show dynamically as you change scrolling direction, hiding content in exactly the place the user is looking at.

What's bad about the sticky property?

throwawa14223 3y ago

I want a dumb document. I don't want the thing where the header gets in the way of my clicking as I scroll.

djbusby 3y ago
If we get OPs dream, it wouldn't.
verticalscaler 3y ago
I understand the sentiment but at some point you're asking for the underlying CSV file. In my opinion a little gear icon which lets you toggle sticky headers and other formatting options and downloadable data as plain text is ideal but good luck standardizing such things.
nikisweeting 3y ago
Same, I can't stand sticky headers, especially on anything involving longform text content. They also make web archiving significantly harder as scrolled screenshots cant be easily stitched together anymore to get the whole page.
- zaik 3y ago
  Don't archive the web by taking screenshots?
  - alpaca128 3y ago
    What other way is as convenient and available but better? Printing as PDF doesn't save the content exactly as it's shown in the browser and a plugin I used for a while in the past was pretty unreliable. Screenshots work on any device with a modern browser and usually I don't want to capture the entire page anyway but just specific interesting parts.
    - palmtree3000 3y ago
      Firefox can screenshot the entire page: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/take-screenshots-firefox#w_what-types-of-screenshots-can-i-capture https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/take-screenshots-firefo...
      - alpaca128 3y ago
        Thanks for the tip. Also I completely forgot you can screenshot specific HTML elements in the Inspect panel with a right-click and "screenshot node".
        alpaca128 3y ago
        Late Edit: unfortunately Firefox' screenshot feature seems to have a maximum size, beyond which it just silently truncates the output.
alpaca128 3y ago
> the header gets in the way of my clicking as I scroll Sounds like your problem are not sticky headers but the "smart" semi-sticky ones that hide or show dynamically as you change scrolling direction, hiding content in exactly the place the user is looking at.