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There are a number of independent projects using atproto in various ways. There's an (incomplete) list here: https://docs.bsky.app/showcase https://docs.bsky.a

There are a number of independent projects using atproto in various ways. There's an (incomplete) list here: https://docs.bsky.app/showcase https://docs.bsky.app/showcase And the protocol is documented here: https://atproto.com https://atproto.com

mariusor 3y ago
Thank you, I might be searching for the wrong things, but I don't see any independent servers. There's clients, libraries, bots, but no servers, am I missing something? My question was motivated by the fact that from the outside the AT proto ecosystem looks pretty monocultural, and personally I don't trust that. :)
- steveklabnik 3y ago
  Federation was just opened up with this announcement. I don't think there was a lot of energy for working on independent PDSes until after this has happened. In the past day, a bunch of copies of this reference PDS have been deployed. We'll see how things change in the future. Basically, you're right, but just because you're asking early on. This is about to change real quick.
  - mariusor 3y ago
    Sorry to be dismissive but if people need a reference PDS to implement a protocol, I kinda lose faith in its expressiveness. I'm contrasting this through the prism of having seen people implementing ActivityPub software as early as 2017, when it was merely a draft and everyone was complaining about how many things had been left out.
    - steveklabnik 3y ago
      There are dozens of things being built on the protocol. Just not PDSes. And it’s not because it’s difficult, but because there’s no point until there are others to try and connect to.
      - mariusor 3y ago
        Sorry, I feel like I'm not getting my point across: if building independent software that implements a "federated" protocol doesn't give you a "PDS" then the protocol has failed. You shouldn't need a reference implementation to do it, you should be able to federate with multiple instances of your own software or with other independent implementers.
mdaniel 3y ago
I've also had pretty good luck using the GH topics for finding obscure projects https://github.com/topics/atprotocol https://github.com/topics/atprotocol https://github.com/topics/bluesky https://github.com/topics/bluesky https://gitlab.com/explore/projects/topics?search=atprotocol https://gitlab.com/explore/projects/topics?search=atprotocol (empty, but I usually check there, too)

mariusor 3y ago

Thank you, I might be searching for the wrong things, but I don't see any independent servers. There's clients, libraries, bots, but no servers, am I missing something? My question was motivated by the fact that from the outside the AT proto ecosystem looks pretty monocultural, and personally I don't trust that. :)

steveklabnik 3y ago
Federation was just opened up with this announcement. I don't think there was a lot of energy for working on independent PDSes until after this has happened. In the past day, a bunch of copies of this reference PDS have been deployed. We'll see how things change in the future. Basically, you're right, but just because you're asking early on. This is about to change real quick.
- mariusor 3y ago
  Sorry to be dismissive but if people need a reference PDS to implement a protocol, I kinda lose faith in its expressiveness. I'm contrasting this through the prism of having seen people implementing ActivityPub software as early as 2017, when it was merely a draft and everyone was complaining about how many things had been left out.
  - steveklabnik 3y ago
    There are dozens of things being built on the protocol. Just not PDSes. And it’s not because it’s difficult, but because there’s no point until there are others to try and connect to.
    - mariusor 3y ago
      Sorry, I feel like I'm not getting my point across: if building independent software that implements a "federated" protocol doesn't give you a "PDS" then the protocol has failed. You shouldn't need a reference implementation to do it, you should be able to federate with multiple instances of your own software or with other independent implementers.

mdaniel 3y ago

I've also had pretty good luck using the GH topics for finding obscure projects https://github.com/topics/atprotocol https://github.com/topics/atprotocol https://github.com/topics/bluesky https://github.com/topics/bluesky https://gitlab.com/explore/projects/topics?search=atprotocol https://gitlab.com/explore/projects/topics?search=atprotocol (empty, but I usually check there, too)