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"So Google’s new Gemini chatbot is racist as fuck." https://twitter.com/JoshWalkos/status/1760423141942178037 https://twitter.com/JoshWalkos/status/17604231419

"So Google’s new Gemini chatbot is racist as fuck." https://twitter.com/JoshWalkos/status/1760423141942178037 https://twitter.com/JoshWalkos/status/1760423141942178037

lucubratory 3y ago
This has nothing to do with the model's capabilities and isn't substantially different from the vast majority of mainstream values in content moderation on social media.
- Vicinity9635 3y ago
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- ebisoka 3y ago
  Ah yes the "mainstream values" where there is no problem with "reverse" racism or "reverse" sexism. Who cares about the model when the owners are a bunch of racists and sexists, altough I guess some people who share these disgusting and regressive "values" will think it's great.
- LAC-Tech 3y ago
  - OP never said it had anything to do with the model's capabilities - values being mainstream (read - held by the rich, powerful and influential) does not make them OK
dade_ 3y ago
Cartman's dream came true. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar4aHfA2UwQ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar4aHfA2UwQ
LAC-Tech 3y ago
We'll just have to wait for Yandex to come out with an equivalent product.
LAC-Tech 3y ago
https://twitter.com/LewisCTech/status/1760504251938492616 https://twitter.com/LewisCTech/status/1760504251938492616 Seems to be fixed
- hajile 3y ago
  Fixed implies broken. If it hadn't blown up on Twitter and risked bad PR and stock prices dropping, it would still be there. They had to hard code in that racist garbage. AI is just making the cognitive dissonance of the creators apparent. They hold that tolerance and inclusivity are more important than anything, but are then intolerant and excluding of certain groups because they are racists and bigots. I'd also note that despite all the lecturing about not stereotyping, it spits out nothing but stereotypes. Ask for a Scottish person and see if you get someone NOT wearing a kilt. Ask for any group with a strong stereotype and see what happens. You get stereotypes for everything except a few stereotypes for a few specific groups where they've manually adjusted things. We need to keep all the moral grandstanding out of the AI models. Not only is it bad for the tools (they aren't AGI and are completely subject to human input), but it makes lawsuits inevitable. This stuff isn't protected by section 230 either. If Google bakes racism or whatever into their model, they are liable. The only protection they can have is claiming they're like a piece of paper and ink where the artist can paint whatever they like. This goes out the window if the paper refuses to draw one group of people, but not others.
- Vicinity9635 3y ago
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"So Google’s new Gemini chatbot is racist as fuck." https://twitter.com/JoshWalkos/status/1760423141942178037 https://twitter.com/JoshWalkos/status/1760423141942178037

lucubratory 3y ago

This has nothing to do with the model's capabilities and isn't substantially different from the vast majority of mainstream values in content moderation on social media.

Vicinity9635 3y ago
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ebisoka 3y ago
Ah yes the "mainstream values" where there is no problem with "reverse" racism or "reverse" sexism. Who cares about the model when the owners are a bunch of racists and sexists, altough I guess some people who share these disgusting and regressive "values" will think it's great.
LAC-Tech 3y ago
- OP never said it had anything to do with the model's capabilities - values being mainstream (read - held by the rich, powerful and influential) does not make them OK

dade_ 3y ago

Cartman's dream came true. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar4aHfA2UwQ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar4aHfA2UwQ

LAC-Tech 3y ago

We'll just have to wait for Yandex to come out with an equivalent product.

LAC-Tech 3y ago

https://twitter.com/LewisCTech/status/1760504251938492616 https://twitter.com/LewisCTech/status/1760504251938492616 Seems to be fixed

hajile 3y ago
Fixed implies broken. If it hadn't blown up on Twitter and risked bad PR and stock prices dropping, it would still be there. They had to hard code in that racist garbage. AI is just making the cognitive dissonance of the creators apparent. They hold that tolerance and inclusivity are more important than anything, but are then intolerant and excluding of certain groups because they are racists and bigots. I'd also note that despite all the lecturing about not stereotyping, it spits out nothing but stereotypes. Ask for a Scottish person and see if you get someone NOT wearing a kilt. Ask for any group with a strong stereotype and see what happens. You get stereotypes for everything except a few stereotypes for a few specific groups where they've manually adjusted things. We need to keep all the moral grandstanding out of the AI models. Not only is it bad for the tools (they aren't AGI and are completely subject to human input), but it makes lawsuits inevitable. This stuff isn't protected by section 230 either. If Google bakes racism or whatever into their model, they are liable. The only protection they can have is claiming they're like a piece of paper and ink where the artist can paint whatever they like. This goes out the window if the paper refuses to draw one group of people, but not others.
Vicinity9635 3y ago
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