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The framing of this as a Google issue would suggest that other search engines wouldn’t have this issue, but I’m not sure that’s true? The “air purifier” search

by taion 3y ago

The framing of this as a Google issue would suggest that other search engines wouldn’t have this issue, but I’m not sure that’s true? The “air purifier” search on DDG seems to give the same set of blogspam results: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=h_&q=best+air+purifier+for+pet+hair&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?t=h_&q=best+air+purifier+for+pet+hai... Can someone with Kagi check to see if Kagi does better here?

piva00 3y ago
Searched on Kagi, my first result was a reddit post on /r/dyson [1], second result was a Medium post without much substance, then there's a collection of blogspam neatly arranged in a box with just the title of the pages (not polluting much, I can just skip that box), third to ninth result are varying degrees of blogs and the tenth result is WebMD [2]. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/dyson/comments/1730x73/best_air_purifiers_for_pet_dander_is_still_dyson/ https://old.reddit.com/r/dyson/comments/1730x73/best_air_pur... [2] https://www.webmd.com/pets/how-to-choose-an-air-purifier-for-pet-hair https://www.webmd.com/pets/how-to-choose-an-air-purifier-for...
itronitron 3y ago
Yeah, it's all mostly junk.
happymellon 3y ago
Isn't DDG just a proxy for Bing? I can't imagine who would go to Microsoft for quality.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
  I believe I've seen DDG's CEO or founder on here claiming that they do not proxy requests through Bing and that they do their own indexing. I think they had been using Bing at some point but I'm pretty sure current DDG results is all DDG indexing. Probably still falling for most of the same tricks which blogspammers use for Google SEO, though.
  - gowld 3y ago
    DDG is powered by Bing plus other APIs and their own crawler. https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources/ https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources... > To deliver Instant Answers on specific topics, DuckDuckGo leverages many sources, including specialized sources like Sportradar and crowd-sourced sites like Wikipedia. > We also maintain our own crawler (DuckDuckBot) and many indexes to support our results. > we have more traditional links and images in our search results too, which we largely source from Bing.
    - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
      I was responding to someone who said DDG is “just a proxy for Bing”. Not that the things in on that page aren’t true but I fail to see how that makes it a proxy; “proxy” suggests that the query actually goes through Bing servers. Sourcing from a service is not the same as proxying through it.

by taion 3y ago

piva00 3y ago

Searched on Kagi, my first result was a reddit post on /r/dyson [1], second result was a Medium post without much substance, then there's a collection of blogspam neatly arranged in a box with just the title of the pages (not polluting much, I can just skip that box), third to ninth result are varying degrees of blogs and the tenth result is WebMD [2]. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/dyson/comments/1730x73/best_air_purifiers_for_pet_dander_is_still_dyson/ https://old.reddit.com/r/dyson/comments/1730x73/best_air_pur... [2] https://www.webmd.com/pets/how-to-choose-an-air-purifier-for-pet-hair https://www.webmd.com/pets/how-to-choose-an-air-purifier-for...

itronitron 3y ago

Yeah, it's all mostly junk.

happymellon 3y ago

Isn't DDG just a proxy for Bing? I can't imagine who would go to Microsoft for quality.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
I believe I've seen DDG's CEO or founder on here claiming that they do not proxy requests through Bing and that they do their own indexing. I think they had been using Bing at some point but I'm pretty sure current DDG results is all DDG indexing. Probably still falling for most of the same tricks which blogspammers use for Google SEO, though.
- gowld 3y ago
  DDG is powered by Bing plus other APIs and their own crawler. https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources/ https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources... > To deliver Instant Answers on specific topics, DuckDuckGo leverages many sources, including specialized sources like Sportradar and crowd-sourced sites like Wikipedia. > We also maintain our own crawler (DuckDuckBot) and many indexes to support our results. > we have more traditional links and images in our search results too, which we largely source from Bing.
  - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
    I was responding to someone who said DDG is “just a proxy for Bing”. Not that the things in on that page aren’t true but I fail to see how that makes it a proxy; “proxy” suggests that the query actually goes through Bing servers. Sourcing from a service is not the same as proxying through it.