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Customers of various smart television brands have, over the past few years, reported that their newly acquired television will, given power, connect to nearby o

Customers of various smart television brands have, over the past few years, reported that their newly acquired television will, given power, connect to nearby open wireless networks without user intervention or permission.

irrational 3y ago
Any device that connects to my wireless network is not able to do anything until I go into an app on my phone and manually move it to an account that will give it access. Fortunately, there are no other open networks within range.
- rrrrrrrrrrrryan 3y ago
  You should still put a password on your Wi-Fi network to encrypt your traffic.
  - throw0101c 3y ago
    WPA3 allows for non-password protected but still having encryption: * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8110 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8110 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunistic_Wireless_Encryption https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunistic_Wireless_Encrypt... * https://www.wi-fi.org/discover-wi-fi/security#Wi-FiEnhancedOpen https://www.wi-fi.org/discover-wi-fi/security#Wi-FiEnhancedO... * https://www.wi-fi.org/wi-fi-download/35331 https://www.wi-fi.org/wi-fi-download/35331 (PDF)
    - avidiax 3y ago
      Is this actually widely implemented in WiFi clients and APs? I have never seen the "Enhanced open" indication in Android.
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- neodymiumphish 3y ago
  Yeah, that’s not going to stop network sniffing unless your network is protected.
buggeryorkshire 3y ago
I've heard this too, but never seen a shred of evidence. Do you know of any?
prmoustache 3y ago
It might change when 5g becomes ubiquitous but I think it is an urban legend as of today.
Paianni 3y ago
Maybe open it up and disconnect the antennas?
miunau 3y ago
Who even has an open wifi network anymore?
- philistine 3y ago
  No one. It is pure urban legend. If it were true, it would not merely be a thing said in forums, it would be national news.
- RandomBacon 3y ago
  Theoretically a company that drives through neighborhoods often such as Amazon could have an open hotspot and an agreement with TV manufacturers to share the data.
m-p-3 3y ago
I heard that a couple of times but I've never seen an actual demo that it occurred..

irrational 3y ago

Any device that connects to my wireless network is not able to do anything until I go into an app on my phone and manually move it to an account that will give it access. Fortunately, there are no other open networks within range.

rrrrrrrrrrrryan 3y ago
You should still put a password on your Wi-Fi network to encrypt your traffic.
- throw0101c 3y ago
  WPA3 allows for non-password protected but still having encryption: * https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8110 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8110 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunistic_Wireless_Encryption https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunistic_Wireless_Encrypt... * https://www.wi-fi.org/discover-wi-fi/security#Wi-FiEnhancedOpen https://www.wi-fi.org/discover-wi-fi/security#Wi-FiEnhancedO... * https://www.wi-fi.org/wi-fi-download/35331 https://www.wi-fi.org/wi-fi-download/35331 (PDF)
  - avidiax 3y ago
    Is this actually widely implemented in WiFi clients and APs? I have never seen the "Enhanced open" indication in Android.
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neodymiumphish 3y ago
Yeah, that’s not going to stop network sniffing unless your network is protected.

buggeryorkshire 3y ago

I've heard this too, but never seen a shred of evidence. Do you know of any?

prmoustache 3y ago

It might change when 5g becomes ubiquitous but I think it is an urban legend as of today.

Paianni 3y ago

Maybe open it up and disconnect the antennas?

miunau 3y ago

Who even has an open wifi network anymore?

philistine 3y ago
No one. It is pure urban legend. If it were true, it would not merely be a thing said in forums, it would be national news.
RandomBacon 3y ago
Theoretically a company that drives through neighborhoods often such as Amazon could have an open hotspot and an agreement with TV manufacturers to share the data.

m-p-3 3y ago

I heard that a couple of times but I've never seen an actual demo that it occurred..