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100% this. This should not be rocket science. Time to kick out faculty and problematic students that want to make math and comp sci and biology about these type

• shadowgovt 3y ago
  There was a time we thought of physics as just a discipline physicists do, detached from the use of the science. Then two cities got wiped off the map in intentional runaway nuclear reactions. A whole generation of physicists learned the hard way that if you don't make hard sciences at least a little like those types of things, you may lack the framework to realize when you're being co-opted into a machine that kills... That "pure" science takes huge moral risks if it believes itself to be detachable from the world it is trying to explore. Credit where credit is due, they responded to the new challenge (https://pugwash.org/ https://pugwash.org/).
  • wait_a_minute 3y ago
    Those two cities getting wiped off the map is not an output of people thinking of physics as a discipline. There is no causal relationship between: p1 - treat physics as a discipline p2 - two cities get wiped off the map There are many more variables that are relevant here, and in times of justified war like WW2 things are different. Consider a war scenario where your physicists spent all their undergraduate study time learning about identity politics and writing political preambles on their papers in order to get their papers even looked at.
    • selimthegrim 3y ago
      Go read about Orlov, Sakharov and Khalatnikov, (or Abdus Salam as a bonus track) and see if you can exhibit even an ounce of shame that any one of them felt, and hang your head.