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I’ve been using Kagi for a while. Unfortunately, its website on mobile is much lower quality than say DDG. One issue I find often is that when I want to edit a

I’ve been using Kagi for a while. Unfortunately, its website on mobile is much lower quality than say DDG. One issue I find often is that when I want to edit a previously-entered query in the search box, sliding the text cursor is very hard – it often stops at search box boundary and doesn’t scroll the text inside. Another is that sometimes the search results page freezes after I come back to it from a different tab. When I try to scroll, it refuses to scroll and only briefly shows some white space around the currently-viewed part. I blame all those on some JS that’s too creative for its own good. Aside from that, I wish Safari had a setting to add custom search URLs, so that I can paste my Kagi auth token, instead of having to use xxSearch, which also has some annoyances. Obviously, this part is not Kagi’s fault. I’ve stopped using Kagi on mobile and went back to DDG. It’s still stellar on desktop though.

cqqxo4zV46cp 3y ago
They’ve got a new “blessed” method, which involves installing their custom Safari extension, which redirects. It works fairly well. Obviously not as good as Apple just not having a whitelist of search providers.
- GrumpySloth 3y ago
  I’ve used it, but it often failed to redirect my searches. It was hit-and-miss. xxSearch works better.
carlosjobim 3y ago
> Obviously, this part is not Kagi’s fault. It is totally their fault. They should release a Kagi App for iOS and be done with it. No normal person is going to mess with hacky extensions and permissions to pay for a search engine. If I can tell people to download the Kagi App and search from there, all of my friends and acquaintances would be able to use it and probably happy to pay.
- Nextgrid 3y ago
  They actually have the Orion Browser - though personally I found it a bit rough on the edges so I'm fine with stock Safari + the Kagi extension. I do agree that they should just release a Kagi app - or even better, just rename Orion to "Kagi browser" and have Kagi as a first-class citizen (with account login).
  - digging 3y ago
    I've switched from Firefox to Orion on my work Macbook and I agree it's a bit rough. But I've never used Safari as a daily driver so I can't tell if it's Safari's fault or Orion's fault. The biggest issue for me is the terribly raw bookmarking UX (cannot drag-and-drop from URL bar to bookmarks bar, cannot move items around within the bookmarks bar, etc.)

cqqxo4zV46cp 3y ago

They’ve got a new “blessed” method, which involves installing their custom Safari extension, which redirects. It works fairly well. Obviously not as good as Apple just not having a whitelist of search providers.

GrumpySloth 3y ago
I’ve used it, but it often failed to redirect my searches. It was hit-and-miss. xxSearch works better.

carlosjobim 3y ago

> Obviously, this part is not Kagi’s fault. It is totally their fault. They should release a Kagi App for iOS and be done with it. No normal person is going to mess with hacky extensions and permissions to pay for a search engine. If I can tell people to download the Kagi App and search from there, all of my friends and acquaintances would be able to use it and probably happy to pay.

Nextgrid 3y ago
They actually have the Orion Browser - though personally I found it a bit rough on the edges so I'm fine with stock Safari + the Kagi extension. I do agree that they should just release a Kagi app - or even better, just rename Orion to "Kagi browser" and have Kagi as a first-class citizen (with account login).
- digging 3y ago
  I've switched from Firefox to Orion on my work Macbook and I agree it's a bit rough. But I've never used Safari as a daily driver so I can't tell if it's Safari's fault or Orion's fault. The biggest issue for me is the terribly raw bookmarking UX (cannot drag-and-drop from URL bar to bookmarks bar, cannot move items around within the bookmarks bar, etc.)