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I thought Asahi Linux's sole developer didn't allow discussion of his project here? I remember there being quite a lot of fallout from that, what happened?

E39M5S62 3y ago
How can someone forbid discussion of something on a site they don't own/control?
- ZekeSulastin 3y ago
  They can’t forbid discussion but they can try to make it so people visiting from HN can’t see the page; they aren’t the only ones, either, as the poster upthread mentioning jwz’s image redirect noted.
larvaetron 3y ago
> didn't allow How would he even enforce this?
- chippiewill 3y ago
  IIRC it was if you link directly to the Asahi Linux website then a bit of javascript picks up the HN referrer and blocks viewing the page.
- blastersyndrome 3y ago
  for a short time, he was monitoring the referral header and made his website display an offensive message if you clicked the link from HN. HN's mods then edited links to his domain so they would emit the referral header, and he responded by implementing a browser exploit to detect if certain HN URLs were in your browser history. In any case, I apologize for using the wrong wording.
nozzlegear 3y ago
Everyone else is asking how they wouldn’t allow discussion on HN, but I’m more interested in why they don’t want discussion on HN?
- RobotToaster 3y ago
  Someone here pointed out that one of the developers on the project is actually the primary developer's vtuber persona. That's literally it.
- pests 3y ago
  Someone in the project considers HN not a safe-space for queer viewpoints / racist / homophobic. I am very much at a loss as well as this has never been my experience. A lot of the arguments started with "when you enable showdead, there's lots of dead comments of people being vile". Just not sure what to say.
  - squigz 3y ago
    Here's some context [0] Indeed, it does often boil down to dead comments being... not great, unsurprisingly. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36226845 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36226845
    - throw10920 3y ago
      The fact is that they're dead, though. They've been killed - by either the users, or the mods. Getting upset over them is unreasonable.
- cobertos 3y ago
  Probably just not wanting to deal with the unsavory side of the lurking userbase on HN or the poor, ill-informed discussion on sensitive/political topics? There are certain things HN is not good at talking about There are multiple people I've seen express this in-desire towards HN
- paulmd 3y ago
  [flagged]
zamadatix 3y ago
Asahi Linux has many developers, the author of this driver (Alyssa Rosenzweig) isn't even the lead developer (Hector Martin).

E39M5S62 3y ago

How can someone forbid discussion of something on a site they don't own/control?

ZekeSulastin 3y ago
They can’t forbid discussion but they can try to make it so people visiting from HN can’t see the page; they aren’t the only ones, either, as the poster upthread mentioning jwz’s image redirect noted.

larvaetron 3y ago

> didn't allow How would he even enforce this?

chippiewill 3y ago
IIRC it was if you link directly to the Asahi Linux website then a bit of javascript picks up the HN referrer and blocks viewing the page.
blastersyndrome 3y ago
for a short time, he was monitoring the referral header and made his website display an offensive message if you clicked the link from HN. HN's mods then edited links to his domain so they would emit the referral header, and he responded by implementing a browser exploit to detect if certain HN URLs were in your browser history. In any case, I apologize for using the wrong wording.

nozzlegear 3y ago

Everyone else is asking how they wouldn’t allow discussion on HN, but I’m more interested in why they don’t want discussion on HN?

RobotToaster 3y ago
Someone here pointed out that one of the developers on the project is actually the primary developer's vtuber persona. That's literally it.
pests 3y ago
Someone in the project considers HN not a safe-space for queer viewpoints / racist / homophobic. I am very much at a loss as well as this has never been my experience. A lot of the arguments started with "when you enable showdead, there's lots of dead comments of people being vile". Just not sure what to say.
- squigz 3y ago
  Here's some context [0] Indeed, it does often boil down to dead comments being... not great, unsurprisingly. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36226845 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36226845
  - throw10920 3y ago
    The fact is that they're dead, though. They've been killed - by either the users, or the mods. Getting upset over them is unreasonable.
cobertos 3y ago
Probably just not wanting to deal with the unsavory side of the lurking userbase on HN or the poor, ill-informed discussion on sensitive/political topics? There are certain things HN is not good at talking about There are multiple people I've seen express this in-desire towards HN
paulmd 3y ago
[flagged]

zamadatix 3y ago

Asahi Linux has many developers, the author of this driver (Alyssa Rosenzweig) isn't even the lead developer (Hector Martin).