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Yes they did. I miss them. But thats creative destruction. Nokia tried to do everything and ended up doing nothing. They could not compete with the joint assau

Yes they did. I miss them. But thats creative destruction. Nokia tried to do everything and ended up doing nothing. They could not compete with the joint assault by iPhone and Android.

actionfromafar 3y ago
Joint assault of iPhone, Android and hostile takeover (intended or not!) by Microsoft.
TheOtherHobbes 3y ago
Or by Microsoft. Nokia never understood the less-is-more thing that Apple are so good at. Hundreds of phones and an overcomplicated OS wuth political and technical problems - Symbian - were the result, not the cause, of a company that lacked focus and direction.
- panick21_ 3y ago
  Symbian was such a strange thing, from its history to dominance to irrelevant. A real outgrowth of 90s software culture.
- jll29 3y ago
  It's interesting that Microsoft never succeeded with a smartphone, given that their other hardware products enjoy a decent reputation (keyboards, mice, tablets); I suspect it's because of the software side - stuck with the desktop metaphor and windows, which makes no sense on smartphones.
  - wvenable 3y ago
    At the time, Microsoft's software development was a bit of mess. But Windows Phone didn't have a desktop metaphor. Recently I had the opportunity to try one that was sitting in desk for a few years and it was pretty interesting and snappy. But they redesigned their mobile OS so many times, had no good developer experience, and came in late enough that it was all doomed.
  - CRConrad 3y ago
    > windows, which makes no sense on smartphones. The last version, the one on the Lumias, was actually quite OK on a phone from all I've heard -- and living in Finland, I knew more than a few people who used those back in the day. That's preciely why Windows 8 sucked so much on the desktop; it was intended to have as much as possible of the look-and-feel of Windows Phone. Windows 8 sucked on computers; apparently not so much on phones.

Yes they did. I miss them. But thats creative destruction. Nokia tried to do everything and ended up doing nothing. They could not compete with the joint assault by iPhone and Android.

actionfromafar 3y ago

Joint assault of iPhone, Android and hostile takeover (intended or not!) by Microsoft.

TheOtherHobbes 3y ago

Or by Microsoft. Nokia never understood the less-is-more thing that Apple are so good at. Hundreds of phones and an overcomplicated OS wuth political and technical problems - Symbian - were the result, not the cause, of a company that lacked focus and direction.

panick21_ 3y ago
Symbian was such a strange thing, from its history to dominance to irrelevant. A real outgrowth of 90s software culture.
jll29 3y ago
It's interesting that Microsoft never succeeded with a smartphone, given that their other hardware products enjoy a decent reputation (keyboards, mice, tablets); I suspect it's because of the software side - stuck with the desktop metaphor and windows, which makes no sense on smartphones.
- wvenable 3y ago
  At the time, Microsoft's software development was a bit of mess. But Windows Phone didn't have a desktop metaphor. Recently I had the opportunity to try one that was sitting in desk for a few years and it was pretty interesting and snappy. But they redesigned their mobile OS so many times, had no good developer experience, and came in late enough that it was all doomed.
- CRConrad 3y ago
  > windows, which makes no sense on smartphones. The last version, the one on the Lumias, was actually quite OK on a phone from all I've heard -- and living in Finland, I knew more than a few people who used those back in the day. That's preciely why Windows 8 sucked so much on the desktop; it was intended to have as much as possible of the look-and-feel of Windows Phone. Windows 8 sucked on computers; apparently not so much on phones.