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Yes, it’s either their lies or US government’s lies, or the industries and other billionaires that own the governments.

aredox 3y ago
Congratulations, the Russian propaganda reached its end goal with you: https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/02/05/destroying-the-concept-of-truth-russian-propaganda-uncovered/ https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/02/05/destroying-the-concept...
- anonymouswacker 3y ago
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  - jrockway 3y ago
    What empire does the US have? Are you talking about Puerto Rico and Guam ?
  - dang 3y ago
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lm28469 3y ago
Ok, but then again what do we earn from normalising the talking points of the other side ? You're adding shit to the shit pile, but it brings nothing to the table for "your" side
- TylerLives 3y ago
  Not the person you replied to, but vilifying the other side is just adding fuel to the fire. Let's say your country and my country are at war. What has a better chance of achieving peace, 1) me saying that you're an evil dictator who does evil things because you're evil and probably insane, or 2) me saying that even though I disagree with you, things are not black and white and my side did some bad things to you too and looking for some reasonable compromise. To me 1) only makes sense if I think I can defeat you militarily, which doesn't seem probable here. I guess 1) also makes sense if I don't want peace at all and don't care about how many people die, but I'm sure that's not the case.
  - DrDeadCrash 3y ago
    Which one is the truth? That is what matters.

Congratulations, the Russian propaganda reached its end goal with you: https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/02/05/destroying-the-concept-of-truth-russian-propaganda-uncovered/ https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/02/05/destroying-the-concept...

anonymouswacker 3y ago
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- jrockway 3y ago
  What empire does the US have? Are you talking about Puerto Rico and Guam ?
- dang 3y ago
  We've banned this account for repeatedly posting flamewar comments and using HN primarily for ideological battle. That's not allowed here, regardless of what you're battling for or against. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

lm28469 3y ago

Ok, but then again what do we earn from normalising the talking points of the other side ? You're adding shit to the shit pile, but it brings nothing to the table for "your" side

TylerLives 3y ago
Not the person you replied to, but vilifying the other side is just adding fuel to the fire. Let's say your country and my country are at war. What has a better chance of achieving peace, 1) me saying that you're an evil dictator who does evil things because you're evil and probably insane, or 2) me saying that even though I disagree with you, things are not black and white and my side did some bad things to you too and looking for some reasonable compromise. To me 1) only makes sense if I think I can defeat you militarily, which doesn't seem probable here. I guess 1) also makes sense if I don't want peace at all and don't care about how many people die, but I'm sure that's not the case.
- DrDeadCrash 3y ago
  Which one is the truth? That is what matters.