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Execution like the wheels falling off their flagship all-ev car? After they've been making cars for 85+ years. https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/wh

Execution like the wheels falling off their flagship all-ev car? After they've been making cars for 85+ years. https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/wheels-falling-off-toyotas-first-ev-136259/ https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/wheels-falling... https://www.motortrend.com/news/toyotas-fix-bz4x-disconnecting-wheels-recall https://www.motortrend.com/news/toyotas-fix-bz4x-disconnecti... That doesn't get the headlines and attenion that a icon enlargement software update on Tesla does on HN.

throwup238 3y ago
Teslas Have a Minor Issue Where the Wheels Fly Off While Driving, Documents Show - https://futurism.com/tesla-flaws-failures-blame-drivers https://futurism.com/tesla-flaws-failures-blame-drivers It's really easy to cherry pick problems when someone makes millions of cars every year.
- belltaco 3y ago
  Toyota was forced to recall all their BZX cars for that issue, whereas the scale of the problem you linked appears to be much lower across Tesla's models.
  - throwup238 3y ago
    "All their BZX cars" = less than 5,500 cars total. It wasn't just a completely new car model, it was the first one built on Toyota's e-TNGA modular EV platform. The factory line had just barely gotten off the ground. Toyta sold ten million cars that year so scale wise that doesn't even qualify as a rounding error. The Teslas suspension problems that caused some wheels to fly off effected tens of thousands.
  - enragedcacti 3y ago
    It was a voluntary recall on an extremely low production vehicle (at least at the time), a total of 260 cars with a potential issue. Compare that to the tens of thousands of ACTUAL INCIDENTS identified by Reuters through Tesla internal documents and Tesla's refusal to even cover the repairs, let alone proactively recall all potentially affected vehicles. Much of what was covered by Reuter's occurred AFTER China forced a recall for the exact same issues. https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-is-conducting-a-safety-recall-involving-2023-model-year-bz4x-vehicles/ https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-is-conducting-a-safety-r... https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-musk-steering-suspension/ https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-mu...
- vardump 3y ago
  Wasn't that about one incident, where the driver was in a traffic accident before the wheel fell off? Wheels are actually designed to fall off in an accident.

throwup238 3y ago

Teslas Have a Minor Issue Where the Wheels Fly Off While Driving, Documents Show - https://futurism.com/tesla-flaws-failures-blame-drivers https://futurism.com/tesla-flaws-failures-blame-drivers It's really easy to cherry pick problems when someone makes millions of cars every year.

belltaco 3y ago
Toyota was forced to recall all their BZX cars for that issue, whereas the scale of the problem you linked appears to be much lower across Tesla's models.
- throwup238 3y ago
  "All their BZX cars" = less than 5,500 cars total. It wasn't just a completely new car model, it was the first one built on Toyota's e-TNGA modular EV platform. The factory line had just barely gotten off the ground. Toyta sold ten million cars that year so scale wise that doesn't even qualify as a rounding error. The Teslas suspension problems that caused some wheels to fly off effected tens of thousands.
- enragedcacti 3y ago
  It was a voluntary recall on an extremely low production vehicle (at least at the time), a total of 260 cars with a potential issue. Compare that to the tens of thousands of ACTUAL INCIDENTS identified by Reuters through Tesla internal documents and Tesla's refusal to even cover the repairs, let alone proactively recall all potentially affected vehicles. Much of what was covered by Reuter's occurred AFTER China forced a recall for the exact same issues. https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-is-conducting-a-safety-recall-involving-2023-model-year-bz4x-vehicles/ https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-is-conducting-a-safety-r... https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-musk-steering-suspension/ https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-mu...
vardump 3y ago
Wasn't that about one incident, where the driver was in a traffic accident before the wheel fell off? Wheels are actually designed to fall off in an accident.