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I wasn't sure about the Vision Pro until I saw how negative HackerNews was about it. I'm sure it'll be a massive success now.

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chx 3y ago
We had no doubts before but the harm this will cause is unbelievable. At least until now you kind of sort of was forced to interact with actual human beings if you met them face to face although already the smartphone made a dent in that. Now... much less. See https://disconnect.blog/apples-vision-pro-headset-deserves/ https://disconnect.blog/apples-vision-pro-headset-deserves/ for more. Of course, it'll be a success, everyone was in agreement openly wearing a bluetooth phone headset https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bluetooth_headset.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bluetooth_headset.jp... was basically a sure sign of the wearer being an asshole but Apple painted it white , rotated it downwards and presto! it's now trendy.
- NoPicklez 3y ago
  Let's be honest, a Bluetooth headset like you've linked is very different to that of a pair of earphones. One was build for calls, the other is built for music and calls. The Airpods aren't just trendy, they're actually an excellent pair of earphones.
  - chx 3y ago
    Jobs is dead but the reality distortion field survived.
    - NoPicklez 3y ago
      I think you have a reality distortion geared towards Apple hate. Because Apple was totally the first to make wireless earbuds that could allow you call people. But hey, if it helps you sleep at night
- mrtksn 3y ago
  > was basically a sure sign of the wearer being an asshole but Apple painted it white , rotated it downwards and presto! it's now trendy. The first says you have half my attention and I can interrupt you at anytime, the second says my attention is somewhere else when on and at you when off. That’s what makes it asshole vs socially acceptable.
  - chx 3y ago
    No, this is made up bullshit, there's nothing more socially acceptable , it's just one is Apple the other isn't.
adolph 3y ago
Projected certainty orthogonal to predictive power. https://slashdot.org/story/01/10/23/1816257/apple-releases-ipod https://slashdot.org/story/01/10/23/1816257/apple-releases-i...
blashyrk 3y ago
For me it's the opposite, I can't believe people are so excited for it when it seems to be technologically severely undercooked and/or on par or slightly better than existing, much cheaper products. I have to assume it's because it's an Apple product. If it were a HTC headset with the exact same specs, I think most people would just shrug and keep scrolling.
- nomel 3y ago
  > slightly better than existing, much cheaper products I've watched many reviews by hardcore VR enthusiasts, and none of them have suggested it's only "slightly" better, with the only comparable clarity coming from devices that are only available through business contracts. Comparing it to my 2/3/Quest Pro (for the short session that I did), I also didn't see anything "slight" about the improvements. Which other headsets have you used that you're comparing it to?
- sahila 3y ago
  Totally an Apple effect, but it being Apple vs HTC also lends belief that this product will blossom larger because it has far greater potential (apple silicon, app store, and past success) and bigger pockets with a strong conviction to make it succeed. HTC unfortunately only fulfills they can make a hardware product, not an ongoing ecosystem.
- dvngnt_ 3y ago
  HTC couldn't even if they wanted to. it's a long time from their windows mobile and android innovative days. as a standalone it's best in class minus 6dof gaming. people are excited for the future of this and other products
ActorNightly 3y ago
It will be a success because of 3 reasons: Apple brand, sleek design, and high price. I.e tech jewelry, which is on par with pretty much everything else Apple sells.
- RockRobotRock 3y ago
  Sounds like a bait comment but I'll bite. Is the iPhone tech jewelry? It costs about the same as flagship Androids and many not tech-savvy people prefer it because of its ease of use. Apple uses this magical new idea called market segmentation, if you didn't know.
  - amf12 3y ago
    Regardless of the price it is. Not everyone is opting for an iPhone because of its "ease of use".
  - littlestymaar 3y ago
    > many not tech-savvy people prefer it because of its ease of use. You realize how much you're hurting your argument when saying this? iPhones are in no way “easier to use” than Android phones, if anything the lack of a back button and more limited Windows support makes it marginally harder for beginner to use but that's not hard to overcome either so it's not a deal breaker in any way. But it's not easier, except in Apple's marketing pitch and Apple fan's head. The only thing saying things like this shows it that's you're an Apple fan whose PoV is too biased to be worth reading.
    - mrtksn 3y ago
      It’s very hard to understand what Android’s up to because it can do anything. Also, you can’t tell what the back button will do - is it going to close the app or go back? On the other hand iPhones are very predictable. There’s one button or one gesture that takes you home and one gesture to take you back. Also, apps always stay with their limits, don’t blend in the OS beyond notifications,widgets and playback controls. That’s also part of the reason why Apple wants to keep it as a walled garden. iPhone’s are miles ahead of any Android in ease of use. Once you deep dive, they might be about the same but Apple still has the consistency advantage.

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chx 3y ago

We had no doubts before but the harm this will cause is unbelievable. At least until now you kind of sort of was forced to interact with actual human beings if you met them face to face although already the smartphone made a dent in that. Now... much less. See https://disconnect.blog/apples-vision-pro-headset-deserves/ https://disconnect.blog/apples-vision-pro-headset-deserves/ for more. Of course, it'll be a success, everyone was in agreement openly wearing a bluetooth phone headset https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bluetooth_headset.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bluetooth_headset.jp... was basically a sure sign of the wearer being an asshole but Apple painted it white , rotated it downwards and presto! it's now trendy.

NoPicklez 3y ago
Let's be honest, a Bluetooth headset like you've linked is very different to that of a pair of earphones. One was build for calls, the other is built for music and calls. The Airpods aren't just trendy, they're actually an excellent pair of earphones.
- chx 3y ago
  Jobs is dead but the reality distortion field survived.
  - NoPicklez 3y ago
    I think you have a reality distortion geared towards Apple hate. Because Apple was totally the first to make wireless earbuds that could allow you call people. But hey, if it helps you sleep at night
mrtksn 3y ago
> was basically a sure sign of the wearer being an asshole but Apple painted it white , rotated it downwards and presto! it's now trendy. The first says you have half my attention and I can interrupt you at anytime, the second says my attention is somewhere else when on and at you when off. That’s what makes it asshole vs socially acceptable.
- chx 3y ago
  No, this is made up bullshit, there's nothing more socially acceptable , it's just one is Apple the other isn't.

adolph 3y ago

Projected certainty orthogonal to predictive power. https://slashdot.org/story/01/10/23/1816257/apple-releases-ipod https://slashdot.org/story/01/10/23/1816257/apple-releases-i...

blashyrk 3y ago

For me it's the opposite, I can't believe people are so excited for it when it seems to be technologically severely undercooked and/or on par or slightly better than existing, much cheaper products. I have to assume it's because it's an Apple product. If it were a HTC headset with the exact same specs, I think most people would just shrug and keep scrolling.

nomel 3y ago
> slightly better than existing, much cheaper products I've watched many reviews by hardcore VR enthusiasts, and none of them have suggested it's only "slightly" better, with the only comparable clarity coming from devices that are only available through business contracts. Comparing it to my 2/3/Quest Pro (for the short session that I did), I also didn't see anything "slight" about the improvements. Which other headsets have you used that you're comparing it to?
sahila 3y ago
Totally an Apple effect, but it being Apple vs HTC also lends belief that this product will blossom larger because it has far greater potential (apple silicon, app store, and past success) and bigger pockets with a strong conviction to make it succeed. HTC unfortunately only fulfills they can make a hardware product, not an ongoing ecosystem.
dvngnt_ 3y ago
HTC couldn't even if they wanted to. it's a long time from their windows mobile and android innovative days. as a standalone it's best in class minus 6dof gaming. people are excited for the future of this and other products

ActorNightly 3y ago

It will be a success because of 3 reasons: Apple brand, sleek design, and high price. I.e tech jewelry, which is on par with pretty much everything else Apple sells.

RockRobotRock 3y ago
Sounds like a bait comment but I'll bite. Is the iPhone tech jewelry? It costs about the same as flagship Androids and many not tech-savvy people prefer it because of its ease of use. Apple uses this magical new idea called market segmentation, if you didn't know.
- amf12 3y ago
  Regardless of the price it is. Not everyone is opting for an iPhone because of its "ease of use".
- littlestymaar 3y ago
  > many not tech-savvy people prefer it because of its ease of use. You realize how much you're hurting your argument when saying this? iPhones are in no way “easier to use” than Android phones, if anything the lack of a back button and more limited Windows support makes it marginally harder for beginner to use but that's not hard to overcome either so it's not a deal breaker in any way. But it's not easier, except in Apple's marketing pitch and Apple fan's head. The only thing saying things like this shows it that's you're an Apple fan whose PoV is too biased to be worth reading.
  - mrtksn 3y ago
    It’s very hard to understand what Android’s up to because it can do anything. Also, you can’t tell what the back button will do - is it going to close the app or go back? On the other hand iPhones are very predictable. There’s one button or one gesture that takes you home and one gesture to take you back. Also, apps always stay with their limits, don’t blend in the OS beyond notifications,widgets and playback controls. That’s also part of the reason why Apple wants to keep it as a walled garden. iPhone’s are miles ahead of any Android in ease of use. Once you deep dive, they might be about the same but Apple still has the consistency advantage.